Crash when starting new game! : IV

» Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:04 am

Hi, I recently installed a bunch of mods with the help of BladeofMercy's 50 Steps guide, and Tomlong75210's TESIV: POSItive website. Both have been very helpful, and I was able to install an OOO+MMM + Other Mods + Texture Overhaul mod configuration. However, when I try to follow the last part of the guides (Where you uncheck all esps/esms except Oblivion.esm, save, close, check another plugin, etc.), I run into a major problem. For some reason, whenever I click "New Game," Oblivion CTD's. It doesn't even play the intro movie or anything. And this is with just Oblivion.esm activated! Before I installed mods, I was able to start a new game, so this must be caused by something I did while modding. Oh, and this is the second time I've installed everything (the same issue was happening the first time I modded my game). So, does anyone know why this might be happening? Could it be PyFFIed meshes or something? I PyFFIed all vanilla meshes (using the Toaster tool with skip list), and I also PyFFIed a lot of mods' meshes (texture/mesh replacers, quest mods, magic mods, etc.).

Load Order

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Active Mod Files
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Windfall.esm
02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
07 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
08 Better Cities Resources.esm
09 TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
0A TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.5]
0C UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
10 Better Cities .esp
11 WindowLightingSystem.esp
12 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
13 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 3.4.3]
14 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]
15 DLCHorseArmor.esp
16 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp [Version 0.91]
17 DLCOrrery.esp
18 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
19 DLCVileLair.esp
1A DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1C DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1D DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1E Book Jackets DLC.esp
** GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
** RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
1F Roberts Armamentium female.esp
20 DLCThievesDen.esp
21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
23 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
24 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
25 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
27 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
28 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
29 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
2A Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2B Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
30 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
31 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
32 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
33 GlenvarCastle.esp
34 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2]
35 Windfall.esp
36 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
37 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
38 DLCFrostcrag.esp
39 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3A Knights.esp
3B Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
3C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3D xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
3E xulTheHeath.esp
3F MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
40 XulEntiusGorge.esp
41 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
42 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
43 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
44 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
45 KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp
46 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
47 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
48 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
49 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
4A xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
4B KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp
4C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
4D xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
4E xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
4F MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
50 KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp
51 xulPantherRiver.esp
52 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
53 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
54 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
55 xulBlackwoodForest.esp
56 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
57 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
58 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
59 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
5A Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
5B Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
5C Quest Award Leveller.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
5D Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
5E MidasSpells.esp
5F Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]
60 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
61 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
62 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
63 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]
64 Better Cities Full.esp
65 BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp
66 BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
67 BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
68 BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp
69 Better Imperial City.esp
6A Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2]
6B bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
6C bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
** Real Lava 1.3.esp
6D Bashed Patch, 0.esp
6E Streamline 3.1.esp

OBSE Plugins

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Elys USV
Fast Exit 2
Elys Uncapper
Oblivion Stutter Remover 4.1

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:02 pm

Do not use the automated tools to PyFFI optimize. The latest PyFFI makes them obsolete. If you repacked the BSAs incorrectly, the game would indeed fail. Does the game run when you restore the original BSAs? Have you tried regenerating your Oblivion.ini? If you use a UI mod such as Darnified UI or DarkUIdDarn, you have to redo the font INI tweaks after generating a new INI.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:36 pm

Ok, I just did what you recommended, Tomlong, but it's still crashing...

» Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:50 am

If it crashes without the vanilla BSAs and all mods uninstalled, more investigating needs to be done. If you are using OBSE v18, have you installed the http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2&displaylang=en?

» Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:26 am

Ok, I installed the runtime update, but it still crashed. Also, I tried disabling OBSE, but that didn't help either. So, I decided to just uninstall everything and start over again. Hopefully I'll have better luck this time.

Thanks for the help, though.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:08 pm

Get just MMM+OOO running first, via the guide on TESIV:POSItive (but you may already know this steps at this point.) Then, slowly add to it. Reference the "First Run Guide" as you start.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:00 pm

hmmm if this occurs again try disabling;

0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp

That used to happen to me, but for some reason unticking that there stopped the crashing on startup. You don't need it for SI anyway(it's a dummy file).

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:06 pm

hmmm if this occurs again try disabling;

0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp

That used to happen to me, but for some reason unticking that there stopped the crashing on startup. You don't need it for SI anyway(it's a dummy file).

It is a dummy file to load the SI BSAs. You were playing without any of the resources loaded...

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:49 pm

I just figured out what was wrong! Because I was installing DarkUI Darn after Oblivion XP, it was overwriting some files that were needed by Oblivion XP (for some reason, OBMM wasn't warning me about the conflicts). So, I just installed Oblivion XP after DarkUI Darn, and now Oblivion works perfectly!

» Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:33 am

It is a dummy file to load the SI BSAs. You were playing without any of the resources loaded...

~~The BSA's are there though x_x and activating it crashes at start up. *shrugs* The door to SI is there and I haven't bothered going in SI.~~ Sorry that I have weird issues with Oblivion that not even I can explain.

It's all good though.

I guess from this point on I just wont say anything since I just gave a bad suggestion.