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The world of Warcraft has a huge lore scene. Go to WoWwiki and read for yourself, Warcrafts lore is without a doubt ten times more extensive that TES lore.

Only the referrer get the mount, unless they changed it. I know because I got one last year.


Warcraft II came out before WoW.

And a manual for each game that gives the history of each race and the situation in good detail. TES lore is just a bunch of guess work with few solid facts, and a bunch of apparently "deep thought" stuff of the make-up of the world that I guess they thought would make them sound uber-smart.

Plus basing it on WC2 isn't so good anyways because the series hadn't quite developed yet. But compare WC2 to Arena/Daggerfall lore and in terms of depth and established, solid facts lore, WC2 uses TES for toilet paper after mexican food. By the time WC3 comes around, there is no contest.

Sorry, I should also mention with the tendency this forum has of going straight to the "boy who cried troll post" that is is "just my opinion". God forbid that gets stated here without a million people here getting whiny and flaming the hell out of it.

I've heard people say WoW ruined the Warcraft lore, but the WoW lore is still written by the same guy (Chris Metzen) and by now probably around 85% of the lore is from WoW.

I love reading the wiki and getting lost in all the hotlinks, the lore is really quite amazing.

I haven't actually followed the WoW lore I wanted to, but for one, TBH, I didn't even think to look for a WoW Wiki :facepalm:

http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Main

They have articles on pretty much everything.

? Ok? That's obvious. I don't get what you mean. I don't mean "World of Warcraft", I mean the world OF Warcraft. The universe that IS Warcraft. That lore. It's nearly identical to the previous games lore, as it's just a continuation..


WoW did not destroy Warcraft lore. I've played all 3 RTS games, and WoW extensively, and the lore fits together pretty perfectly. The lore has changed, evolved, and moved on, but that's not "ruining" it. The only people who say that are the types of people who don't realize that lore can change and evolve.

My roommate was playing it tonight while the other three of us were playing CoD.

Yes, people still play it.

Well then you missed the point when you quoted me in the first place, because we were talking about Warcraft II. :rolleyes:

WoW is an incredibely good game. I played it for about 3 years, done the hardcoe raiding stint, however I just don't have the desire to play any more. I talk to most of the friends I made on it via Facebook/MSN/phone. It's great for meeting people and killing time, and if you're good, it's great if you're competitive (like I am). I still sit around and remember sitting up and going for that Realm/Oceanic/World 1st kill on a raid boss, there isn't a feeling quite like it in any other game I've ever played.

However, like all games, it has its downsides. And you really do need to mod it for it you be playable at an acceptable level (default UI is horrendous after you've used a different one). If you need any tips on how to play the game I played a Feral/Resto druid (which made me DPS, Tank and Healer) and I can give you any info you might need on that/any raids (except the Cata ones which I didn't really enjoy. Actually, Cata as a whole is what I didn't enjoy, which was a large part of why I quit playing).

Anyway, it's well worth picking up, however you really need to watch the time when you're playing, it's really easy to get lost in questing/dungeons/bgs and lose track of time.

e. I'd get all the expansions at once, you're going to end up having to get them anyway, and it gives you instant access to every aspect of the game.

Now this thread is just getting ridiculous.

See, now this is a widely shared sentiment on this forum that I've never understood.

I wouldve have played longer if I could afford it. Great game made better with a solid core of friends.

The story is great, the lore is great but the gameplay is horrible.

Go here, kill this, collect 10 of these and return.

He who has the better equipment, wins.

We can go on raids because we have good equipment. Why do we go on raids? To get good equipment to go on raids.

Along with all of the macros, player skill takes a backseat.

THAT is what this forum has a problem with.

Did you even bother to read the rest of my post?

WoW is a good game, if you actually get into it and play it with a group of friends. When I first tried the game I thought it was terrible, lasted about 10 minutes and uninstalled it. Then I was at a friends and he was playing it and had to hop off for a few minutes to do some things and was in the middle of a max level dungeon. So I jumped on and had a go, and actually had a fairly good time doing so.

Yes, WoW is about macros/sequences, etc. and not so much about player skill (however, on that same note, you have to be at least good to be able to succeed, and you have to be exceptional to come close to any form of success in relation to world rankings, which is why I played) but to me that's what made it fun - I love nailing a boss fight, topping the damage meter, tanking the boss correctly so the only people taking damage is me and the OT, or if I'm healing I enjoy knowing that I done my job correctly.

It's not a game you're going to be able to play if you can't have that mindset, or if you prefer to play solo.

Yet that is the nature of every MMO that has ever been made. I don't see you bashing EQ, EQ2, Guild Wars, etc? Why do you ONLY bash WoW? It's like the people on this forum have a huge problem with anything remotely popular. That seriously seems to be the case. "Oh god, I hate lil wayne, Macs, and World of Warcraft just because everyone else likes them blargh!"
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We enjoy playing World of Warcraft for what it is. That's not for you to have a problem with. WoW isn't going to change anytime soon, and neither are it's customers.

Pretty much the same deal with most MMORPG in existence, I dont see that as a problem

Yep, I still play WOW. since the Burn Crusade for be more exactly




So. we cant say that X game is amazing because you dont think in that way?

WoW is a well-crafted and highly enjoyable game. I've played it on and off since 2005 focusing mainly on battleground PvP, occasionally trying some raiding and even roleplaying. Seeing other gamers scoffing at it without providing much in-depth reasons as to why, and at the same time trying to belittle me and others who play it as being mindless grinding junkies is kind of insulting.

This, with the exception in the part of insulting us, I think that they dont have much ideas to put you in a role

Ugh, nevermind, stupid forum buttons aren't working.

Wait. Hang on. I thought the thought on this forum about Oblivion was that fighting was all player skill. That RPG battles had to be more stat based. Now there are people saying player skill > character stats?

Wassup with that? I'm not saying you think that Bonemaster but I've seen that idea come up many times before.

I have removed several posts flaming and response to those flames occurred. Since we don't seem to be able to discuss this in a mature manner and we don't have time to babysit it...it's closed for discussion.

summer and I were both looking at this thread and shaking our heads in bemusemant. There are so many games out there, so many different things for people to play and enjoy. How unbelievably - and utterly pointlessly - arrogant some of you are about one game type over another. Broaden your horizons, some of you, or at least, open your minds a bit.

I play WoW. I enjoy it, I am in a guild with a bunch of friends, we sometimes screw around and amuse ourselves, we sometimes raid, it's fun, it's social. It's supposed to be fun. Most people playing games do not use their game type preference as some societal marker for how leet you are in your HOBBY. :rolleyes:

Shockingly, even though I play WoW, my IQ has not dropped. I also play single player RPGs extensively - probably more over the years, than many of you. I also sometimes play FPS games. And sometimes I play strategy games for weeks on end, intent on conquering the world! Tower Defense games are awesome as well. Does my uber range of game playing talent and skill somehow diminish you, or elevate me? No. Some of you need to do an ego-check before posting about game genres next time.