Magical Overhaul Mod compatability : IV - Oblivion

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:45 am

#1 You need to run your load order through BOSS and probably manually sort some of those mods there, floating at the end.
Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- guidelines here

#2 You cannot user Ren's mod and RBP together. Plus, RBP's Hidden Elves are Mystic Elves. Nor can you run the plugin for Robert's mod with either. However, you can edit Robert's changes into either of the other two plugins.
Make Ren's Mod Compatible with Robert's Male v4 or v5 - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/renrobert <-- remember to delete Robert's mod afterward

#3 COBL Races is a stripped down version of RBP, so all of the conflicts above apply and you need to choose between it and RBP.

#4 Install Wrye Bash because the bashed patch would help with some of these overlapping plugins you have installed, which are not limited to the cosmetic mods.

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:11 pm

i have installed it, using the installer, i just... hesitated when i didn't know how to open the damn program

I guess i'll look through your google site, there's a guide there if i remember correctly?

You cannot user Ren's mod and RBP together Which one is ren's mod ?

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:42 pm

The one with "ren" in it and "_full" at the end.

Wrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash <-- read the related pages too (you can ignore the BAIN part though)

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:58 am

You cannot user Ren's mod and RBP together Which one is ren's mod ?

I believe both RBP and Cobl Races both include most of what Ren's gives you anyway, so pick one of those. The Cobl package also includes its own version of TNR that adds the new hairs and eyes to NPCs on top of the facial changes. You are also missing a couple of patches for The Lost Spires and Unique Landscapes.

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:35 am

I believe both RBP and Cobl Races both include most of what Ren's gives you anyway, so pick one of those. The Cobl package also includes its own version of TNR that adds the new hairs and eyes to NPCs on top of the facial changes. You are also missing a couple of patches for The Lost Spires and Unique Landscapes.

You can install TNR separately, and RBP also includes an Npc diversity modules that do make changes similar to COBL's diversity changes. Choose RBP if you want the racial overhaul, rebalancing; otherwise, use COBL Races. I need to do a cosmetic mods comparison and installation page or something...

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:13 am

Ah, i just got confused at your use of abbrviation: Rbp + Rens?
what does rbp stand for if not rens beauty pack?

hmpf still not quite working.., hair and eye change did work on default races but not on elves of lineage... which is of course what i want to play ;_;

work work

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:53 am

Ah, i just got confused at your use of abbrviation: Rbp + Rens?
what does rbp stand for if not rens beauty pack?

I guess you kind of have a point there ^_^

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:30 am

RBP has only ever stood for bg2408's Race Balancing Project. "Everyone" knows Ren's mod is Ren's mod, haha...sorry about the confusion, mate.

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:25 pm

Yay, i just fiddled around disabling and reinstalling like you said, and, bingo

Still have those pesky fake races to get rid of some how, is there perhaps a way i can do it manually in the data folder ?
i was looking around but didnt find anything.

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:54 pm

Yay, i just fiddled around disabling and reinstalling like you said, and, bingo

Still have those pesky fake races to get rid of some how, is there perhaps a way i can do it manually in the data folder ?
i was looking around but didnt find anything.

What "fake races"?

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:22 pm

"death god" "drunmend" and replicas / counterfeits of nord, breton etc, without stats, quite strange <_<

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:22 am

RBP has only ever stood for bg2408's Race Balancing Project. "Everyone" knows Ren's mod is Ren's mod, haha...sorry about the confusion, mate.

/facepalm xD
i shoulda guessed xD

soooo... do you make mods too ?

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:33 am

so i finally installed wrye bash after getting everything else working, and that was a bit of a pain, but meh,
need it for All Natural, And now I get: this: error:

Spoiler

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "E:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 3004, in OnShowPage
self.GetPage(event.GetSelection()).OnShow()
File "E:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 2039, in OnShow
if data.refresh(progress,what,self.fullRefresh):
File "E:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 10071, in refresh
settings['bash.installers.removeEmptyDirs'], fullRefresh)
File "E:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 8952, in refreshSizeCrcDate
size = apFile.size
File "E:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bolt.py", line 368, in size
return os.path.getsize(self._s)
File "E:\Python25\lib\ntpath.py", line 228, in getsize
return os.stat(filename).st_size
WindowsError: [Error 123] The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect: 'E:\\Games\\Oblivion\\Data\\Ren_BeautyPack_v1.1 ????.txt'

Any ideas? i have disabled it, and wrye is doing it every time :/

guess i'll read through the self help readme some more.

Edit: Just renamed the file, hehe, seems to have done the trick.

Can you explain the general idea/necessity of bash to me?
I just don't quite get it, like i get omod.

Cheers Tom!

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:36 pm

I am not asking you to use its installer. However, if you want to be able to run multiple mods that make cosmetic contributions to the same race, you need to use Wrye Bash.

Finishing the Installation <-- read this and post your LO with Wrye Bash afterward (the instructions are in the sidebar under "Troubleshooting")

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:11 am

Oh I see now,
It's a more efficient load ordering tool?
and you can combine esps and stuff?
<_<

i'm so slow sometimes

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:38 pm

Sorry about the link. I am trying to hold onto another links, so I am in a bit of a tizzy. I guess I will post it here.

Finishing the installation - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall <-- here you go, use this to get your load order straight and the bashing right

How to optimize - http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1090515-how-well-it-will-run/page__view__findpost__p__15919311 <-- need to hold onto this, lots of "what's up with my FPS?" threads today

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:50 pm

I went for a complete reinstall after deciding to use fcom and now it runs like a dream

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:32 am

RBP has only ever stood for bg2408's Race Balancing Project. "Everyone" knows Ren's mod is Ren's mod, haha...sorry about the confusion, mate.

Uhm.. for a time now I thought RBP = Ren's Beauty Pack. :spotted owl:

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:18 pm

Uhm.. for a time now I thought RBP = Ren's Beauty Pack. :spotted owl:

And now I've seen two... Wow... I have always called Ren's mod "Ren's."

» Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:04 am

Uhm.. for a time now I thought RBP = Ren's Beauty Pack. :spotted owl:

I know right?
it's just more logical...

by the way, is that the bohemian grove club owl?
as in the place all the presidents go to *ahem* meet?

» Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:51 pm

This just means that RBP is not popular enough, but it'll get there!...(my dream)