ok i know this is the wrong category to post in , i just need help.

Ok so i was trying to merge plugins when i found a fault in the records of one of the esm file. i opened it with TES4Edit and found 7 dialog records not in the dialog data tree. How do i move a record to a certain data tree. (A data tree holds all the records for a certain category e.g dialog, Flora ect)

I tried deleting the records but that caused crashes

Thanks
SoulSaver

You did not post in the wrong category, as TES4Edit's home is on this forum. However, you probably should've posted in TES4Edit's thread. There should be plenty who can help you with this, but I cannot pull the relevant information off the top of my head at the moment.

I think you'd need to remove them, then use the CS to recreate them.




There is no official thread any more, it passed the 200-post limit and got locked about a month ago

Yeah...it's either that or TESSnip...

just thinking, is there any way to move the records, cause i tried to move them to the right category but it doesn't work

Not tidily.
If you want to try something crazy though, this might work (or might not):
Using TES4Edit...
Copy as Override the misplaced records into a new ESP
Remove the misplaced records from the original ESP
Create new blank records in the location they're supposed to be in
Change Form ID for the blank records to match the records in the new ESP
Drag the data from each of the records in the new ESP into the corresponding blank records in the original ESP
Save and pray to Sheogorath.

I forgot you could do that. Yup, that works too. Yay for FormID changing! (even if you could break your game that way. ) I do it...


Edit: ...occasionally...

Horry display name is already in use, would you be able to explain that again, cause im terrible at records :biggrin i didnt really understand you

Sorry display name is already in use, would you be able to explain that again, cause im terrible at records :biggrin i didnt really understand you

Open TES4Edit
Tick only the ESP with the problem
Click OK
Expand Oblivion.esm > Activator
Right-click ANY Activator record, and choose "Copy as override into..."
Tick "new file" from the selection list
Type a filename into the new box ("zzTEMP" will do)
When asked whether to make Oblivion.esm a master for zzTEMP.esp, choose YES
Expand FaultyMod.esp so that you can see the records which are presently in the wrong location
Right click each misplaced DIAL record and choose option "Deep copy as override into..."
Tick zzTEMP from the selection list
When asked whether to make FaultyMod.esp a master for zzTEMP.esp, choose YES
This should place a duplicate of each faulty record into zzTEMP.esp, still misplaced
Now right-click each misplaced record in FaultyMod.esp and choose "Remove". When asked to confirm, choose YES
Now right-click on FaultyMod.esp > Dialog Topic, and choose "Add > DIAL - Dialog Topic"
When asked for a "New Form ID" type a Form ID to match the first misplaced DIAL record
Now left-click on the newly created DIAL record in FaultyMod.esp, you should see both the blank new record just created and the matching record in zzTEMP.esp
The data can be dragged across from the record in zzTEMP.esp into the record in FaultyMod.esp, so drag from the right side to the left side until the records show fully green
Now right-click on the newly created DIAL record in FaultyMod.esp and choose "Add > INFO - dialog response"
When asked for a "New Form ID" type a Form ID to match the first misplaced INFO record within the DIAL record you've just recreated
Again, drag from right to left the data from the INFO record until all shows green
Repeat for any additional INFO records in this DIALOG record
Now start on the next misplaced DIALOG record, creating anew, dragging the data, creating the INFOs within, dragging the data
Exit TES4Edit and ensure FaultyMod.esp is ticked (you can untick zzTEMP.esp, you don't need to save it) then click OK
Stand on one foot, swing a rubber chicken around your head, and recite the traditional praise for Sheogorath backwards

I think that covers all steps in enough detail.

Hi when i right click the faulty DIAL record and click Deep copy as override into and click YES the following error comes up:
Only top level group records can be added to files.

how do i fix this?

That could be TES4Edit preventing you from placing a DIAL record into a location where DIAL records don't belong, in which case this isn't possible.
Try right-clicking on one of the INFO record within the DIAL record and see if it lets you copy as override that one record. If it doesn't, then you can't do what I suggested here, and should instead try what I originally suggested - remove then recreate.

hmmm i tried that and it didn't work. I have a copy of the esm and maybe i will remove the records. merge the plug-ins than replace the file with the clean esm. it worked before anyway

hmmm i tried that and it didn't work. I have a copy of the esm and maybe i will remove the records. merge the plug-ins than replace the file with the clean esm. it worked before anyway

I'm with TomLong, this sounds like a job for TESsnip...