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Vivec is special! He's the only hermaphrodite in Tamriel. :nod:

As far as we know ^^ and I would guess that he looks kind of good if he/we would live in the same time and place.

I had always assumed that werewolves lived long-lives ('immortal' or not, I'm not sure) judging by 'Hircine's Hounds' in the Bloodmoon quest, and the bloodmoon quest in general. *shrugs*

It is, afterall, a daedric curse similar in nature to porphyric haemophillia (manifests as a disease but acts as a curse) and with the whole daedric aspect to it; they'll serve Hircine better if they're werewolves long enough to become the ultimate hunters.

All Daedric Princes on the other hand can be male or female. Mephala was a Hermaphrodite as well - fitting she/he was Vivec's anticipation eh?

And as for Hircine's personal bodyguards, for all we know those may be his Daedra which were never mortal to begin with, or perhaps he blessed mortal Werewolves with long life specifically to serve him - something he wouldn't do to any and all werewolves but only the ones which serve him best. OR maybe they all had corprus when they became werewolves, making them immortal effectively.

Interesting you say that; it's something I've considered. That these 'hounds' are actually the daedra relative to his sphere, or else the 'first' werewolves he created, constantly in that form, but spreading his curse. They do bear his name, afterall.

I've long considered this, since 2004 or so. They only appear in his realm, are very powerful and apparently old - some were frozen statues when the Nerevarine first appears. They never appear untransformed to my knowledge. They're very possible Hircine's elite Daedra servants, not much different from Sheogorath's Golden Saints, Dagon's Dremora or Meridia's Aurorans.

The werewolves named 'Hircine's Hounds' are considered purely creatures by the game, I think (can't remember for sure). They are separate from the wandering werewolves usually encountered, and yeah, they appear as Statues, something that I feel asks questions.

That isn't to discredit the idea that werewolves live longer lives- in fact, if its true, and they are Hircine's elite servants, then the fact that mortals emulate their form makes them half-daedra in a way (another thing I've been wondering) which would surely effect life expectancy.

I like speculating. I would hang out here more often, but I have a phobia of lorists.

Both of these "forms" are retconned quite heavily in the games. TES is simply not consistent enough:

Vampires:
Daggerfall - undead (you're in a slab for 2 weeks, no mate, noone survives that)
Morrowind - product of Molag Bal, probably not really undead
Oblivion - pussies

WereXXX:
Daggerfall - as per std. legend, but more possibilities (wereshark anyone?)
Morrowind - product of Hircine
Oblivion - que?

I may be wrong on the daggerfall werecreatures tho, perhaps Hircine is mentioned somewhere in the books (I'm a bit rusty lately). In any case, the TES games simply differ.

In Daggerfall you die 3 days after you got the disease and then you become undead.

I'm not sure if the werecreatures part is entirely accurate, but either way, that list made me laugh...

There are some good thematic and actual hints that Vampires come from Vearnima. There is their association with nightmares, being unable to sleep because of nightmares and being living nightmares themselves, only able to go out at night . Molag Ball also mentions that he gets the cure from Vearnima.



I'd attribute that more to the ignorance of the peasants that find you. After taking a potion you stop being a vampire. It's a bit weird if you were alive, died, became undead and then started living again.



What? What even is a half Daedra?

*crawls back into hole*

Urgh. Apologies. Not the best of moods back then.

Half man. Half bear. Half pig. Half Daedra.

That's what it is.

Lord Sheogorath told me so.