Eschatology [study of world/age ending]

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:27 am

As it was a previous kalpa, does the World-River have a counterpart in Nirn's current kalpa?


I thought its counterpart was time. Who was it that said that? It was ages ago. Well, time to go to the graveyard and exhume some dead threads to find out. I hope I can find it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:06 pm

I thought its counterpart was time. Who was it that said that? It was ages ago. Well, time to go to the graveyard and exhume some dead threads to find out. I hope I can find it.


Time does sound likely. Thanks.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:26 pm

Here's what I think might fit. It is a promise of something new.
"'The magical cross is an integration of the worth of mortals at the expense of their spirits. Surround it with the triangle and you begin to see the Triune house. It becomes divided into corners, which are ruled by our brethren, the Four Corners: BAL DAGON MALAC SHEOG. Rotate the triangle and you pierce the heart of the Beginning Place, the foul lie, the testament of the irrefutable-for-a-span. Above them all is the horizon where only one stands, though no one stands there yet. It is proof of the new. It is the promise of the wise. Unfold the whole and what you have is a star, which is not my domain, but not entirely outside my judgment. The grand design takes flight; it is transformed not only into a star but a hornet. The center cannot hold. It becomes devoid of lines and points. It becomes devoid of anything and so becomes a receptacle. This is its usefulness at the end. This is its promise."
- http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:31 am

As it was a previous kalpa, does the World-River have a counterpart in Nirn's current kalpa?


It's not Time. The "World River" is a metaphor for the flow of existence (Linear Time in conjunction to Space) in each Kalpa, and it's not really a 'thing', rather a force within each Kalpa.

Here's what I think might fit. It is a promise of something new.
"'The magical cross is an integration of the worth of mortals at the expense of their spirits. Surround it with the triangle and you begin to see the Triune house. It becomes divided into corners, which are ruled by our brethren, the Four Corners: BAL DAGON MALAC SHEOG. Rotate the triangle and you pierce the heart of the Beginning Place, the foul lie, the testament of the irrefutable-for-a-span. Above them all is the horizon where only one stands, though no one stands there yet. It is proof of the new. It is the promise of the wise. Unfold the whole and what you have is a star, which is not my domain, but not entirely outside my judgment. The grand design takes flight; it is transformed not only into a star but a hornet. The center cannot hold. It becomes devoid of lines and points. It becomes devoid of anything and so becomes a receptacle. This is its usefulness at the end. This is its promise."
- Sermon 13


This is just a Vehk-Esque explantion of how eveything eventualy becomes Grey, changing a Grey Maybe, to a Grey Nothing (The begining and the End, O), until it is split again by AE to form the next Kalpa.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:09 pm

It's not Time. The "World River" is a metaphor for the flow of existence (Linear Time in conjunction to Space) in each Kalpa, and it's not really a 'thing', rather a force within each Kalpa.



Possibly, in previous kalpas the Akatosh and Lorkhan roles were not so clearly defined and they were occupied by the same individual. The combined concept of space and time was simply referred to as "the World River". If you consider, metaphorically, some of the lore, then these two are currently occupied by the same individual, as well. I use the term individual loosely, btw. ;)


This is just a Vehk-Esque explantion of how eveything eventualy becomes Grey, changing a Grey Maybe, to a Grey Nothing (The begining and the End, O), until it is split again by AE to form the next Kalpa.


Still sounds like Alduin's job, to me.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:33 pm

By the way its not Albudashbafnonbalafnon. Its Aldudaggavelashadingas.
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