Scribe of the Next Elder Scroll?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:21 am

If you take what Martin says at face value and the other events participated in by the COC, then Sheogorath will write the next Elder Scroll.

Is that a good idea?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:35 pm

The Champion=Divine Crusader=Madgod thing is starting to annoy me. Good for a hypothetical mind [censored] but you don't hear anyone saying that the Gray Fox is the Arch-Mage, do you?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:16 am

The Champion=Divine Crusader=Madgod thing is starting to annoy me. Good for a hypothetical mind [censored] but you don't hear anyone saying that the Gray Fox is the Arch-Mage, do you?


That's becuase the Grey Fox broke time with the Elder Scroll you stole! Don't mess with the COC, he'll erase you.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:47 pm

The Champion=Divine Crusader=Madgod thing is starting to annoy me. Good for a hypothetical mind [censored] but you don't hear anyone saying that the Gray Fox is the Arch-Mage, do you?


Yeah I agree. Another thing is, if you mantle Sheogorath and then in that second start to act like say Azura, doesn't that kind of break the whole thing? :)

In any case, I agree that it's somewhat shady (although in all honesty I'm playing again, and I'm already about to finish the MQ with a Divine Crusader and am particularly looking forward to go to the SI afterwards.. you know save the best for last. However, to keep my RP perspective sane, the MQ/KOTN line will be considered separate, since I'll leave all behind when entering the SI.. I'm too lazy to make a new char all the way to level 30 just for SI).

But you must view it as .. "it all happened, but not necesserily to the same guy". It happened to YOU that is I that is WE, but it's quite possible that in one of the WE it only happens that the SI line is done for example. That's what the whole Dragon Break thing is for.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:25 am

They might pull another dragon break...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:59 am

The Main Character doesn't even become Sheogorath in the SI questline, well not officially. He isn't a real Daedra Lord, just someone to sit on the throne until something else. What that something else is, no one knows. But the Main Character never really becomes Sheogorath, or a Daedra Prince. Just a Madgod, which could mean anything, not specifically Sheogorath.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:53 pm

The Main Character doesn't even become Sheogorath in the SI questline, well not officially. He isn't a real Daedra Lord, just someone to sit on the throne until something else. What that something else is, no one knows. But the Main Character never really becomes Sheogorath, or a Daedra Prince. Just a Madgod, which could mean anything, not specifically Sheogorath.


That's not so clear really, but a discussion of this POV is somewhat useless, there's not enough evidence to either prove or disprove it. From a conotinuation standpoint, I guess it's easiest your way tho.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:27 am

The Main Character doesn't even become Sheogorath in the SI questline, well not officially. He isn't a real Daedra Lord, just someone to sit on the throne until something else. What that something else is, no one knows. But the Main Character never really becomes Sheogorath, or a Daedra Prince. Just a Madgod, which could mean anything, not specifically Sheogorath.


Unless, of course "Mad God" is a synonym of Sheogorath.

As for the whole x=y conundrum, it takes minimal effort to cover up. Sheogorath will still be around, and he won't be wearing Imperial Dragon armor.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:35 pm

The Champion=Divine Crusader=Madgod thing is starting to annoy me. Good for a hypothetical mind [censored] but you don't hear anyone saying that the Gray Fox is the Arch-Mage, do you?

I'm not so sure. I always took it as the same character completed all the main quests, but "somebody" (or "anybody") did the rest. After all, the Nerevarine was considered to have beaten Dagoth Ur, Almalexia and Hircine, but is not considered to be Arch-Mage or Grandmaster or Primate. I feel that the same rule should be applied to the Champion.

KotN is more confusing though, as it feels more like a guild questline, but it's story is more in line of that of an MQ. Added to that it's a DLC, and while it's the highest quality one, I'm not sure how they fit into the grand scheme of things (I'm pretty sure the CoC didn't inherit four novelty houses after all).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:51 am

If you take what Martin says at face value and the other events participated in by the COC, then Sheogorath will write the next Elder Scroll.

Is that a good idea?

Technically anyone with any sort of historic impact is going to be "writing the elder scrolls". Sheogorath, irrespective of his true identity, is at best going to be a glorified artifact-dispenser for the real future Elder Scrolls scribe.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:13 pm

Unless, of course "Mad God" is a synonym of Sheogorath.

As for the whole x=y conundrum, it takes minimal effort to cover up. Sheogorath will still be around, and he won't be wearing Imperial Dragon armor.


But perhaps he'll be wearing Pelinal's armor :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:14 am

I'm not so sure. I always took it as the same character completed all the main quests, but "somebody" (or "anybody") did the rest. After all, the Nerevarine was considered to have beaten Dagoth Ur, Almalexia and Hircine, but is not considered to be Arch-Mage or Grandmaster or Primate. I feel that the same rule should be applied to the Champion.

KotN is more confusing though, as it feels more like a guild questline, but it's story is more in line of that of an MQ. Added to that it's a DLC, and while it's the highest quality one, I'm not sure how they fit into the grand scheme of things (I'm pretty sure the CoC didn't inherit four novelty houses after all).

Personally, I'd say that the official layout should be that the CoC mantled Pelinal, which in turn caused him/her to mantle madness, since there were plenty of times Pelinal went bat [censored] bonkers, and the two relate to Shor.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:22 am

Personally, I'd say that the official layout should be that the CoC mantled Pelinal, which in turn caused him/her to mantle madness, since there were plenty of times Pelinal went bat [censored] bonkers, and the two relate to Shor.


That is also what I always thought and that SI was a manifestation of that insanity. I have never believed that the events of SI actually happened, it;s just Sheo messing around with the CoC's head.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:27 am

"You" are Divine. Your "characters" are your aspects/avatars.

___TWM
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:59 am

"You" are Divine. Your "characters" are your aspects/avatars.

___TWM


Exactly, but I personally also think that Lorkhan ANON Akatosh or IS/IS-NOT represents the player/PC in the sense of "I wanna play, but I have to go shopping IRL too". Kind of "clicks" with me :)
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