This is the sort of thing I'm hoping for. That what Todd mentioned in the interview and so far is just the first story arc of dragons, that at first they mighit seem evil, and that's what your e told, but throughout the story you unfold various things that lead you to dragons which you don't see as evil.

Then you can look back and see how killing some dragons on your part could have bene actually bad. It reminds me of the feeling I had after finishing Shadow of the Colossus and killing those giants.

Just because they're the villains of the game doesn't mean they're not intelligent or that all dragons are evil. We have to consider that these dragons are likely just followers of Alduin, and that they do not encompass the attitudes of all dragons in the TES lore.

I've read many posts fearing dragons would be the new cliffracers. What I personally fear is that dragons could become the new dremora. That is, yet another there-to-be-killed hinder between you and the final, hopefully epic fight, with no culture, and no possibility of negotiation or trade.

From the lore, we learnt that dragons are intelligent beings. They have their own language, both spoken and written, which is not only a proof of intelligence beyond any possibility of doubt, but also fuels my hope they are given some crafting skills. As I said in another topic, I think no language may be considered as really existing, even in a fictional context, without the tales, stories and legends it is intended to be the vehicle for. Therefore, I think that dragons must have a culture. Moreover, setting a dragon culture that the player is able to dicover would provide the game with, at least in my opinion, an incredible depth.

Part of many actual cultures is religion. Alduin is the dragon god, though it's still unclear to me whether He is the only one dragons worship. Even if this is the case, this doesn't mean there is a unique interpretation of His will, which is canonical and universally recognized as such among dragons. And even in this case, it would not be granted that every individual would follow Him regardless of His intents. No society can be monolithic.

Neither can individuals. The purpose of Bethesda when building Havok Behaviour was, I think, to make the living beings in the game more believable - which is somewhat of a necessary condition for immersion. But if dragons appears to be merely scaly bags of blood and anger whose only purpose in life is to destroy everything moving around in general, and the Dovakhiin in particular, they wouldn't be, in my opinion, very believable. Of course, some of them may want to see you dead (it's always cool [or warm, hum :flamed: ] to fight against a dragon), but I hope besides these one, there will be dragons that are, perhaps not friendly, but at least non-hostile. For example, there could be peacefull dragons that want to know what happenned to the world during their centuries-long absence, simply showing neutral interest for men's and mer's business.

I hope dragon will be complex beings with their own individual story, background, and purposes, very intelligent beings able to manipulate people and crowds, perhaps even willing to play some role in Skyrim's politics. It would be nice, also, to see dragon questgivers, for example apostates that accept to give you some pieces of information about Alduin if you do something for them as a counterpart.

I also hope there will be more possible, perhaps more peaceful, outcomes for the confrontations with dragons than the traditional I-dead-or-you-dead thing. For example, it would be nice to see a dragon mother landing on the main place of a city, burning a big tree and shout that her egg has been stolen by smugglers, and that either she recovers it within two days, or she and her husband will come back and it will be seen whether anybody could prevent two dragons having nothing more to lose to share their despair. Not only would this kind of stuff create a poisonous sphere in the city due to people trying to find the thieves, but it would also give the player more choice about how he or she wants to deal with the confrontation. Of course, oviparity of dragons is purely hypothetic, but what I mean is that I hope to be surprised by dragons in many more ways than only due to the way they fight, or the powers they own.

They must be evil or at least uncooperative. If you want friendly dragons you might as well go watch a Disney movie (nothing wrong with Disney, but Elder Scrolls is not entertainment for children).

Why was the sixth house evil? A cult being evil is rather cliche.

Sixth house was done nicely I even felt some sympathy for Dagoth Ur, hope dragons will be done this way.

Theyr evil coz they wana take our land and bleep...

Right. It's all about perspective.

Dagoth Ur certainly didn't consider himself evil. He probably considered himself a hero, albeit a misguided one. You might even argue that Vivec was as villainous as any other character in the story. The dragons have their own motivation within the story and to assume they are evil because their motivations don't align with the PC's motivations (or rather, the motivations of those who would influence the PC) is to assume a bit much. Just because they're raining fiery death upon the people doesn't necessarily make them evil (See recent vikings vs. dragons film 'how to train your dragon').

We don't know their motives for attacking Skyrim, just because they are attacking, (other than what we guess about alduin) it doesnt make them evil, just evil from your perspective because you're on the opposite side to them.
Since you can call dragons to aid you, who knows, perhaps there are some good/passive dragons, it would seem weird as hell to me, to call an evil dragon to fight for you.

While I'd really like there to be both good and evil dragons, when it comes down to it I'll kill them either way.

Concept of friendly dragons that you can pet and ride is as much cliche and overused as generic evil dragons nowadays,and historically all kinds of dragons, good and evil, are presented as intelligent creatures in literature and other media, for example Smaug from "Hobbit". Sorry to say but that pool is very biased.

There is no such thing as evil, the dragons just hate Lorkhan because he tricked them to be lesser creatures than god, and the Nords love him because he created them soooo, you just fight for human survival, therefore to you the dragons are evil, but they think you are a product of the evil Lorkhan and therfore you must die = not evil dragons just different POV...

I don't mind them being intelligent, but I don't want to see any friendly dragons. Since the dragons seem to have appeared alongside Alduin in his quest to devour the world, it would be disappointing if some of "his" dragons are nice and friendly.
Besides, one of the dragon shouts will force a dragon to fight alongside you, not ask it to fight alongside you. They're not like horses or pets, they're here to destroy the world!

I wouldn't mind friendly dragons that are aligned with the Empire though (those that are considered sacred by the Empire). The question is just if there are any left?
But I guess it would be best to not include them either, and instead keep the focus on you - you are maybe the last dragonborn, and only you can stop Alduin. It'd be more heroic to fight them yourself wihout the aid of other dragons.

Yes, I'm a 27 yr old Child because I would like to see dragons to be treated as complex beings who are capable of being good or bad depending on the story and their own character, not to all be one or the other.

Obviously your the Dragonborn which makes you enemy number 1 against the Dragons.

Well being Dragonborn may lead to a few interesting plot points. We are going after them one by one and they may veiw our PC as evil. Whose to say it's not all a matter of perspective of who thinks who is evil. The us as the PC finds them evil as they find the Dragon born evil.

Secondly, just because you can summon a dragon to aid you doesn't mean it is good. That dragon could be evil as *censored* but only fighting for you because you now command it after giving it one heck of a beat down.

I think there could be alot of potential depth to these dragons which are far from cliche

Todd Howard said there will be drsgon shouts enabling you to summon dragons to your aid.. so yea

Because you are the dragon born, if elephants new what was good for them they'd start eatting poachers so the dragons arnt gunna look kindly on you. also you don't 'no' the story yet, also who says that this is all the worlds dragons maybe it is just the [censored] end.

I would prefer them to not be good and evil. I would prefer them to actully have soem depth, the way you put ti makes me think that they are either "Im really cool and stopping Alduin from eating the world so everyone can live. Im really good." or "Im evil and eat stuff."

They need to have their own motives, maybe the Great Wyrm's lead their own group sand a re all divided with their own motives.

I do not necessarily think that the dragons will be evil, to be honest. I think they will be more chaotic than evil. Just doing what comes naturally for them.

WTB a main antagonist who is not "all powerful" and can destroy the world yet has his 'army of minions' try to do it for him. Just blitz attack and burn it all instead of the cliche evil villain mastermind BS. Have the dragons be a side-effect of the villains breach of dimensions between Nirn and the gods. They would just be opportunistic creatures who might be supporting the god because it freed them even if it was not intentional. That would be epic instead of how the plot has been sounding so far.