Mixed Race Characters

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:42 am

Ummmmmm..............No?

There we go!
Take a pre-existing race and throw in traits of another race if one desperately needs to be a mixed race.
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Chelsea Head
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:16 am

Interspecies erotica. I don't like this idea.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:56 am

The Gray Prince is the son of an Imperial Vampire and an Orc Servant. Physically, he looks like an Orc, however his features are paler. This could be due to the fact that his father is an Imperial, because he's a Vampire, or both. In the case of distinct racial features, you seem to be influenced mostly by your mother. But the Gray Prince clearly has some non Orc traits, most notably his gray skin, inherited from his father.

What does this mean for half-breeds? They are the same race as their mother, but can have few traits from the fathers, easily achievable from all the ways you modify your characters. Although, this should mean that you can modify eye color, as that is a trait that should be influenced by fathers, along with hair and skin colors.

I don't believe any beast races can interbreed. I think it's strictly between humans and elves. Most notably, I think Argonians lay eggs. Mammals and reptiles cannot interbreed that way. As for Khajiit, the DNA may just be too different to successfully conceive.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:44 am



This is exactly the kind of argument disgusting racists used in the past. If it's a person I don't care what it looks like, it's not "obscene." And no, "person" does not mean "human" in my opinion. The Argonians and Khajiit are intelligent people. Just because they look like animals doesn't mean they are animals. Are humans monkeys? No, they are monkey-like, just as the beast races are animal-like.

I find nothing wrong with interracial relationships in TES, be they any of the races, including the beast races. They are not animals, end of story.


Wow, this has taken a weird turn. I never thought I would see someone compare another to a disgusting racist due their reluctance to mate with a cat/lizard of high intelligence. There is a reason they are called "beast races" you know. Chimpanzees and dolphins have intelligence that is not far behind that of the Orsimer, they just lack the vocalization. Are you saying you would have the six with a chimpanzee? OK, dolphins I could see, but a chimpanzee?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:46 am

Wow, this has taken a weird turn. I never thought I would see someone compare another to a disgusting racist due their reluctance to mate with a cat/lizard of high intelligence. There is a reason they are called "beast races" you know. Chimpanzees and dolphins have intelligence that is not far behind that of the Orsimer, they just lack the vocalization. Are you saying you would have the six with a chimpanzee? OK, dolphins I could see, but a chimpanzee?

They used to say that black people were not the same species as whites thats what they mean and if they are Sapient and speak human language then it's different than a dolphin that can only squeak.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:23 pm

The Gray Prince is the son of an Imperial Vampire and an Orc Servant. Physically, he looks like an Orc, however his features are paler. This could be due to the fact that his father is an Imperial, because he's a Vampire, or both.

Kinda like Obama then?(well, except for the orc part) :lol:. Would been rather lame if they added this in the game in a large scale, towns in skyrim full of half-dunmers. etc.. it doesnt add uniqueness or "diversity", it destroys it by blending everything.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:21 pm

Kinda like Obama then?(well, except for the orc part) :lol:. Would been rather lame if they added this in the game in a large scale, towns in skyrim full of half-dunmers. etc.. it doesnt add uniqueness or "diversity", it destroys it by blending everything.


I suppose he's kind of the reverse of that (A Caucasian mother with an African father) but in essence, yes.

With the fact that you can modify yet more body traits in Skyrim than previous titles, I think half-breeds will be easily possible without actually making separate racial features for them. If you have a child of an Altmer mother and an Imperial father, you can make the skin less yellow and the ears shorter. A Bosmer mother and a Dunmer father could yield a child with ears longer than the father but shorter than the mother, darker and less saturated skin, and perhaps a reddish-brown eye color like http://www.solidcolorneckties.net/v/vspfiles/photos/27-056-2T.jpg.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:43 am

i made my redguard white and my nord yellowish like a high elf
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:53 am

Yeah, I think it should be doable as long as character creation is versatile enough. Being able to set your eye color similar to how you do with hair would be a nice addition; then you could give yourself red Dunmer eyes on an Imperial or something. Or height, and be a somewhat taller Bosmer.

Of course, people would still treat you like one race or the other, but that's consistent with the way they say people take after their mother's race, so whichever race you chose would be your dominant side. Probably the number of combinations makes it unlikely to be implemented officially and be able to be recognized in the game as more than one race.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:34 am

How about a system where instead of picking a race, you can pick your mother and father.
Your mother determines almost all your starting stats and abilities, but your father will modify these by a few +3's or -2's depending on race.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:31 pm

Wow, this has taken a weird turn. I never thought I would see someone compare another to a disgusting racist due their reluctance to mate with a cat/lizard of high intelligence. There is a reason they are called "beast races" you know. Chimpanzees and dolphins have intelligence that is not far behind that of the Orsimer, they just lack the vocalization. Are you saying you would have the six with a chimpanzee? OK, dolphins I could see, but a chimpanzee?

I compared the line of thought, and I said that's the road it leads down. I wasn't comparing the person directly to those kinds of people. I think there's a theme like this in District 9 too but I didn't see the film.

First of all Orsimer are not anywhere near lacking intelligence to be compared to chimpanzees or dolphins. If chimpanzees or dolphins really were as intelligent as humans no I absolutely would find nothing wrong with people having relationships with them, because they would be equals.

The affront was not that they found it repulsive, rather it was the fact that they went on to say no sane person wouldn't find it repulsive, that no matter how intelligent the race is and no matter who loving the relationship, somehow it's wrong all because of the way the race lookscoup.

A person is a person, I don't care what shape it comes in. It's kind of like Star Trek. Really there is nothing more bizarre about interracial relationships in TES world than there is with interspecies relationships in science fiction shows. Again, there's nothing wrong that they found it repulsive, it's that they took it further and tried to apply that as some kind of all encompassing moral standard, that everyone should find it disgusting.

More on the topic, some people keep bringing up genetic viability. If it's true that in The Elder Scrolls world interracial children take after their mother race wise then genetics goes out the window. I really don't think genetic compatibility is something that need be thought about here. If they said the mother's race decides it that's just how it is. Argonian mother with any other race father would mean Argonian child, etc.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:06 pm

Actually, people seem to neglect that the orsimer are the most intelligent of the fighting races (nord, orc, and redguard). Well, most intelligent, in that the female orcs have 40 int (average), while everyone else in that part has 30 (low).
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:44 am

You know Bethesda could feasibly do half races since appearances wouldn't change. You could pick your mothers race to determine you characters appearance and then pick your fathers race to get a single trait form another race.


I think you have a misguided idea of how genetics work.....
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:29 pm

I think you have a misguided idea of how genetics work.....

:facepalm:

No, I'm afraid you have a misguided view of how genetics work in TES lore. Read up.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:24 am

If a female Dunmer and a male Imperial had a kid, the kid would look like a Dunmer. There are no obvious mixed race people in Tamriel according to lore.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:33 am

I think you have a misguided idea of how genetics work.....



:facepalm:

No, I'm afraid you have a misguided view of how genetics work in TES lore. Read up.

Yes, please do. Especially when I posted a link to the very book in question on the first page....

Read this book. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-notes-racial-phylogeny-and-biology

It is explained in the Elder Scrolls universe (too avoid the whole half race thing) that if a Female Dunmer and a Male Orc get down the kid is going to generally be a Dunmer. Though a few of the fathers traits may be present. As has been pointed out, look at the grey prince. -Oblivion spoiler-
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His mother was a Orc and his father was an Imperial vampire. None of the visual traits passed over. He was just a Orc. Perhaps Imperial charisma passed on though.


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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:19 am

an orc argonian
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:27 am

RL question to the rl talk: ur ancestry begins in africa dued to the earth's land being all crunched together, so africa was probably in the middle so that makes sense

OT: REDGUARD NORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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