Ideas for dragon shouts :)

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:10 am

Right now there's one that slows down time, one that stealthily moves you across a room in the blink of an eye, one that pushes foes back, and another that calls a dragon down to fight by your side.

My favourite would be one where when performed you leap high into the air (up to about 10-15 meters), and glide back down on the winds, controlling your speed and direction. This would allow you to glide long distances if you jump off a mountain peak, or simply leap up onto a high ledge, without being a bit too overpowered by being able to reach places that you're not intended to reach right away. It would make sense too, because the whole idea around the dragonshouts is that they're carried in the wind.

I'd also like to see a flamethrower-like "dragon breath". It would also be nice if there were different dragons that you could call down. For example, for larger a larger enemy or boss you could call down a single very powerful dragon, but if there's a whole bunch of weaker enemies that are swarming you, you could call down a mother and her dragonlings as a kind of "crowd control".

Udig? Any ideas? :)
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:45 pm

A book in oblivion has a few shouts in it and one is to sharpen your blade.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:21 am

A book in oblivion has a few shouts in it and one is to sharpen your blade.

Saywhat? Were the Dragonshouts mentioned in Oblivion? I thought they said that they had implemented them in the lore specifically for Skyrim. The Thu'um existed earlier, but only later did they expand on it to become dragonshouts. As far as I understood.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:57 am

Saywhat? Were the Dragonshouts mentioned in Oblivion? I thought they said that they had implemented them in the lore specifically for Skyrim. The Thu'um existed earlier, but only later did they expand on it to become dragonshouts. As far as I understood.

He means there was a book that said The Thu'um was used to sharpen blades among other things. They've just started calling them dragonshouts now, because it sounds better in regards to gameplay.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:52 pm

Saywhat? Were the Dragonshouts mentioned in Oblivion? I thought they said that they had implemented them in the lore specifically for Skyrim. The Thu'um existed earlier, but only later did they expand on it to become dragonshouts. As far as I understood.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Children_of_the_Sky
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:04 am

Right now there's one that slows down time, one that stealthily moves you across a room in the blink of an eye, one that pushes foes back, and another that calls a dragon down to fight by your side.

My favourite would be one where when performed you leap high into the air (up to about 10-15 meters), and glide back down on the winds, controlling your speed and direction. This would allow you to glide long distances if you jump off a mountain peak, or simply leap up onto a high ledge, without being a bit too overpowered by being able to reach places that you're not intended to reach right away. It would make sense too, because the whole idea around the dragonshouts is that they're carried in the wind.

I'd also like to see a flamethrower-like "dragon breath". It would also be nice if there were different dragons that you could call down. For example, for larger a larger enemy or boss you could call down a single very powerful dragon, but if there's a whole bunch of weaker enemies that are swarming you, you could call down a mother and her dragonlings as a kind of "crowd control".

Udig? Any ideas? :)



While I like the idea of your "leap into the air" I highly doubt it'll be a dragon shout. Dragon shouts are supposed to be powerful abilities that you learn from dragons... and unless I am mistaken all dragons can fly... so... why would a dragon that can already fly have the special ability to suddenly leap into the air and let you glide back down to earth? Kind of redundant, if you ask me.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:52 am

While I like the idea of your "leap into the air" I highly doubt it'll be a dragon shout. Dragon shouts are supposed to be powerful abilities that you learn from dragons... and unless I am mistaken all dragons can fly... so... why would a dragon that can already fly have the special ability to suddenly leap into the air and let you glide back down to earth? Kind of redundant, if you ask me.

Dragons also glide. And without the wind they can't fly. So you glide on the wind :P it's like saying why have an ability that pushes all your enemies back when they can just swipe them with their massive arms.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:56 am

While I like the idea of your "leap into the air" I highly doubt it'll be a dragon shout. Dragon shouts are supposed to be powerful abilities that you learn from dragons... and unless I am mistaken all dragons can fly... so... why would a dragon that can already fly have the special ability to suddenly leap into the air and let you glide back down to earth? Kind of redundant, if you ask me.



It'd certainly explain how a giant featherless lizard flies on wings that are too small to even support it.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:33 am

Heh, I was saying I like the idea, however it is redundant because ALL dragons already fly. Yes, I see that you say "Why have a "Force Push" move while they have massive arms to swipe with?" Well, we don't have massive arms. Granted, we don't have wings to fly either, but from what I (personally) understand of the Dragon Shouts is that each Dragon has a unique ability that you can absorb. So, why do ONE dragon have the force push, while other can't? All dragons fly/glide. It's not "unique" to a specific dragon. All dragons swipe with their claws, so it, too, is not unique, but ONE does have a force push, while most likely also having his claws for laceration - which is quite different from forcing an opponent back, if I'm not mistaken... And by the way, yes, they can fly without wind. They create it with their powerful wings. Common sense. Does an airplane fly using wind? Nope. It flies because it has an engine which uses a contraption to propel the device forward. Common sense. Dragons fly because of their wings, not because of wind.

@ Davii:
My point is flying is not unique to one dragon. So, unless you can get the levitation/glide ability from ALL dragons, why make it a "special ability" to them all? The point of Dragon Shouts is that they're unique to each dragon. (i.e. Slowing down time, "blinking", force push)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:22 am

Heh, I was saying I like the idea, however it is redundant because ALL dragons already fly. Yes, I see that you say "Why have a "Force Push" move while they have massive arms to swipe with?" Well, we don't have massive arms. Granted, we don't have wings to fly either, but from what I (personally) understand of the Dragon Shouts is that each Dragon has a unique ability that you can absorb. So, why do ONE dragon have the force push, while other can't? All dragons fly/glide. It's not "unique" to a specific dragon. All dragons swipe with their claws, so it, too, is not unique, but ONE does have a force push, while most likely also having his claws for laceration - which is quite different from forcing an opponent back, if I'm not mistaken... And by the way, yes, they can fly without wind. They create it with their powerful wings. Common sense. Does an airplane fly using wind? Nope. It flies because it has an engine which uses a contraption to propel the device forward. Common sense. Dragons fly because of their wings, not because of wind.

@ Davii:
My point is flying is not unique to one dragon. So, unless you can get the levitation/glide ability from ALL dragons, why make it a "special ability" to them all? The point of Dragon Shouts is that they're unique to each dragon. (i.e. Slowing down time, "blinking", force push)

The 20 dragon shouts in the game aren't the only dragon shouts. In the canon the voice users once knew hundreds, including one that sharpens blades. Why would a dragon us a blade? So not all dragon shouts are directly the abilities that each unique dragon has. And I'm fairly certain that any dragon soul can be used to unlock any dragon shout, granted you have enough. It's not like "kill fire dragon to get fire shout" or "kill time dragon to get slow time shout". So there must be some shouts that aren't associated with specific dragons. We really don't know at this point. And what I meant is that the dragons must ride the wind a lot. I know it CAN fly without wind, but it looks like the entire dragon and nordic culture revolves around wind, which is what gives the dragons such amazing power and probably flying ability.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:22 am

@ Davii:
My point is flying is not unique to one dragon. So, unless you can get the levitation/glide ability from ALL dragons, why make it a "special ability" to them all? The point of Dragon Shouts is that they're unique to each dragon. (i.e. Slowing down time, "blinking", force push)



I thought I read that there was a ritual to learn each shout or something involving the throat of the world. I'm not entirely sure you learn each shout from a specific dragon. I could be mistaken, but it seems like more a progression thing than a direct absorbing of the dragon's power. It strikes me as weird that each dragon would have its own unique ability. They're a single species, not one each from a bunch of species.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:53 am

I thought I read that there was a ritual to learn each shout or something involving the throat of the world. I'm not entirely sure you learn each shout from a specific dragon. I could be mistaken, but it seems like more a progression thing than a direct absorbing of the dragon's power. It strikes me as weird that each dragon would have its own unique ability. They're a single species, not one each from a bunch of species.

Yeah. It's probably somewhere in between. I'd say each of the "boss" dragons would have their own special abilities to make fights varied, because dragons are actually quite intelligent and have different preferences in fighting style and all that (I think). But there's these walls all around the world that give you a word in the dragon language, and you need three words to make up each dragon shout. So you need to run around collecting the right words and THEN you learn the dragon shout (probably through a ritual like you mentioned). So it's more of a collection exercise, but the dragon souls are like your "experience points" if you will. You probably have to learn a few certain ones to begin with, and then you get to choose which shouts you go after depending on how you play (stealth, warrior, mage).
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:32 am

Yeah. It's probably somewhere in between. I'd say each of the "boss" dragons would have their own special abilities to make fights varied, because dragons are actually quite intelligent and have different preferences in fighting style and all that (I think). But there's these walls all around the world that give you a word in the dragon language, and you need three words to make up each dragon word. So you need to run around collecting the right words and THEN you learn the dragon shout (probably through a ritual like you mentioned). So it's more of a collection exercise, but the dragon souls are like your "experience points" if you will. You probably have to learn a few certain ones to begin with, and then you get to choose which shouts you go after depending on how you play (stealth, warrior, mage).



The walls. That's what I was trying to remember haha. Yeah, I was fairly certain that you aren't getting shouts directly from dragons. The shouts are really just thu'um as far as I know, but with a sixier name.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:19 am

I thought I read that there was a ritual to learn each shout or something involving the throat of the world. I'm not entirely sure you learn each shout from a specific dragon. I could be mistaken, but it seems like more a progression thing than a direct absorbing of the dragon's power. It strikes me as weird that each dragon would have its own unique ability. They're a single species, not one each from a bunch of species.



No, no I know that. But I thought I read some place that when you absorb dragon souls you gain the base ability, but also along with each ability you had to know the words, which with each additional word the power becomes more and more enhanced (up to three words per shout). But here, let's take a look at GI.

Oh, I see. Direct quote from Todd Howard on GI website on Dragon Shouts:

"Upon defeating a dragon, Skyrim’s hero absorbs the soul of the fallen creature, which fuels his ability to learn a new shout."

So... I guess the souls are the fuel you need in order to learn one, not the actual ability itself. But you do have to know the words in order to use that fuel. I wonder if killing dragons is like a magicka potion, but only for Dragon Shouts. But then again, he does say "..., which fuels his ability to learn..." which this implies that it is sort of like that, but only initially so you have to apply the soul to a shout you want to learn. Like points for the perk system, or something. However, I was under the impression that you learned a new ability by defeating a specific dragon. Because I know that it has also been mentioned that there are a set number of dragons in the world, hence leading to the assumption that each one was unique and had a certain ability for you to absorb. Oh well, time will tell.
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