Hello there.

Just a thought I've had on the playable races, in fact the races in general in the ES series. In a vast Empire that spans hundreds of theoretical miles with hundreds of towns/villages/cities and, one would think millions of inhabitants. Why are there no "halfbreeds", playable or otherwise. Are you telling me a world with millions upon millions of people, with a history spanning thousands of years and not one person has gone and got some strange?

Scenario: You're in the fighters guild, you've just finished a job where you had to protect the rats some crazy Dunmer tart keeps in her basemant. You meet up with the lads and hit the tavern.........hard. After a dozen tankards of ale "POW" suddenly that Orcish maid across the room doesn't look so bad, you're thinking to yourself "so she's a green pig monster, she has a rockin body and I find the fact that she could bench press me sixy". Bing Bang Boom 9 months later and someone pops out a pink orc.

Now I know I'm poking fun, but seriously this would make for some interesting character creation don't you think? Like a Nord/Imperial with blonde hair and a brain? Or an Altmer/Breton with super mad magika and NO weaknesses?

Just sayin........

Well in the lore the maternal genes are always sovereign. By that I mean Beth found a fantastic reason not to have to worry themselves with "mutts" because the paternal genes are all recessive and not homozygous

all that is of course depends on the lore for TES, consider how rare half breed are (isn′t the gray prince in Oblivion a half orc?) it can be assumed just like RL, cross breeding is very, very rare and leads to sterile children.


There is also gameplay balance, heck you yourself gave a example of a balance breaking Altmer/Breton

no weakness= gamebreaking character.

Yeah I was going to mention the Gray Prince, but if I recall he was actually part vampire.

And whats that you say about sterile kiddies?

Exactly. There are half-breeds in TES, but they don't appear much different than normal. Such as what happened with the Bretons, breeding between two different races will eventually result in a new race, but the first generation of such a pairing wont look different.

No way Jose. There's no such thing as a game breaking character. I've fought an entire cult of Daedra worshippers, I've stopped a bunch of necromancers and become the head of the mages guild and I've walked the very plane of Oblivion itself and done battle with mighty Daedra. Your telling me that having a certain percentage of weakness to magic is gonna change that? No I didn't think so.

Wasn't he saying the fact that a super powered half-ling would be game breaking? I mean, super skilled in magic with no down side sounds game breaking to me. What would be the point of taking a normal race character when you could get the best of both worlds? So, I'm gonna have to say no.

In Nirn, a half-breed inherits the mother's racial appearance, while getting the father's racial attributes.

Thanks friend. Ask a question. Recieve an answer. It's a beautiful thing

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My Khajiit likes Argonian females who am I to stop him lol.

bad kitty *brings out the water spray bottle*

I wasn't saying PLAY THIS AND ENJOY IT OR ILL MURDER YOUR FAMILY. I wasn't even calling for it's inclusion to the game. I just said what if this? And he replied, well then I think this. And I further replied, that wouldn't really bother me.

I get your point. I disagree, if your gonna be a one man army anyway. All in I say. If you don't want that then cool. I'm sure I'll have playthroughs where I deliberately make my character weak as p*ss to get the experience you mention. Other times I want all to cower before my supreme awesome ness ess.

Hope my position is clearer now.

There are half breeds in TES lore and Morrowind/Oblivion, just because you missed them doesn't mean they aren't there.




This is probably why you missed them OP.

If you are asking why they don't have their own individual races and look different to pure races it's because it would be a huge waste of time, money and resources when they are developing to do something like that. It's just not feasible or wanted really, so they explained it by saying half breeds look like their mother's race.

Cross breading like a chicken and a dog, or like a black person and a white person.?

Is that like when you use both flour and corn meal to bread your chicken?

+5 for epic originality.


and the OP missed some Cross breeds that reside in the Kahjiit Population, the fact that Bretons are a Cross-breed of nedic and elves, and the whole technicality of reccessive Genes etc etc oh and the Imperial/Orc Vampire Hybrid that fought in the Arena.

You had 5 years man lol

Hey, I think we're all forgetting the quest in Oblivion where a vampire Imperial got it on with an Orc. What did we have, a half breed vampire kick ass Orc who fought in the arena and could withstand the sunlight. Also there was the theory that the dude had, in the Bloodmoon expansion of Morrowind, about the Falmer, or snow elves as he called them, as well. He had a theory that over time they either died out or they bred with other races, which were obviously more dominant. I think in a world that is populated by ten races, there is already a lot of variety. The idea of half breeds isn't such a far fetched idea, that maybe there are half breeds, they just look predominantly more like a singular race, than a mix between the two. That's my theory anyway.

In any case, it does get the old noggin thinkin...

I haven't been a member so long on these forums, but still a have read million upon millions treads just like these, and all refer to a in-game book where they write about the issue at hand. You will never be able to play as a hybrid , unless you count with the bretons which are thousands of years of crossbreeding. Personally don't want any more races we already have 10 playable and thats more than many other RPG, they have a lot of lore behind them and all got there distinctive traits so there is no need for any more.

Still they have confirmed that there are 10 playable races so there is no reasons to have this topic now...

Actually, you got that backward. And only then, the half-breed only recieves a few of the father's physical appearance traits. The slight racial input from the Father does accumulate after generations of interbreeding. Hence, the Bretons. And Altmer/Breton half-breeds just result in either more Bretons or Altmer, not some Super-Mage, because Bretons are years of interbreeding between the interbreedings of Nords and Altmer.

Imperials are just Nords that became wimps.

The Grey Prince demonstrates Tamriel's take on half-racial hybrids. He's a full orc, but has less green skin because of his Imperial Father's appearance.

I don't know if Khajiit are fertile with non-khajiit or not. The most definitive book in the series (Racial Phylogeny) says they aren't, but it could be the author's a racist who refuses to acknowledge the possibility. A half-Khajiit (With a Khajiiti mother) would look like any other khajiit, because the Moon Phases, not Inherited Genetics, define the qualities of the Offspring. It may be possible male Khajiit are infertile with other races, though, due to the lack of the input from the Moons on non-khajiit.

I haven't heard of cross breed in Khajiits population... it's just that they are very diverse depending on the moond phases. The khajiits that appear in Oblivion could perfectlyt have a pahmar (that is similar to a normal tiger) as a child, or a giant cat that could be mounted.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Khajiit