Just like the title says, the game crashes when I try to change my outfit. Doesn't happen every time...maybe half of the time. Jewelry doesn't seem to do this, just armor/clothing. Vanilla-wear does this too, not just items added by mods. Any insight as to why this is happening would be appreciated...getting tired of having to quick save every time I want to change my shirt...

Here's my load order...I've used BOSS on it, so it should be kosher...

Oblivion.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp
300_Combat Sounds.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Brighter_Torches.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
CM_Better Wine.esp
Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
ImprovedSigns.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
DBShadowSet.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
24HrArenaAliveV2.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Blood&Mud.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Better Redguard v2.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Lootable Merchant Chests.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp

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First off, bumping a mere hour after posting is considered bad form The forums aren't has lively as they used to be, so don't expect immediate answers all the time. And second, 'kosher' is my word Now then, the only thing which really stands out is Frostcrag at the very bottom. I'm pretty sure it belongs w/ the other DLC stuff at the top. Next, Natural Environments was discovered to be highly buggy and unoptimized, definitely remove it. If your hardware can handle an upgrade, I highly recommend using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 instead. Lastly, Decorator Assistant gets very weird when dealing w/ a lot of script-heavy mods. If all of the above don't fix your crashing and the problem escalates beyond clothes, then you might to temporarily disable DA.

Did you run that load order through BOSS? DLCFrostcrag should not be at the end... That other mod does not belong there either.

Thanks for the reply ... I realized bumping so soon probably wasn't a good idea after I bumped. My apologies - a bit frustrated at the time.

Anyhoo, frostcrag isn't actually at the bottom...or at least it doesn't appear that way in my load order in OBMM...I don't know why it's showing up down there when I export the list. I'll swap out natural environments.

I have run BOSS, so I'm not sure why the order looks weird...I'll look into it.

Thanks for the replies, I really appreciate it.

Either BOSS is not working or you have a masterlist so outdated, I do not remember ever having downloaded it (DLCFrostcrag unrecongized?) What did your BOSS Log say? Are you using Wrye Bash? If so, did you turn off 'Lock Times' before running BOSS?

I'm not sure what happened. I went back in a double checked and now the load order is fine...frostcrag back up where it's supposed to be. I'm using the latest masterlist. Anyway, that's not the cause of the problems, I'm 95% sure.

Not using Bash at this point, I messed up my game pretty bad with it and had to reinstall.

Wrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash <-- Installing this utility should not mess up your game. This page steps through the install and config process.
SL.ini Tweaks - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/streamline <-- make sure this guy is setup properly as well...


I think I should head to bed now. It is already 6:10 AM, but I'm hungry... (and, yes, I will be delirious for the rest of the day, deal with it... )

Yeah, I know I just had bash set up wrong. It's a fantastic app, I just didn't know what I was doing. That site looks really helpful, thanks for that. Same for the SL.ini site.

I believe I've narrowed the problem down to armor/clothing with scripts attached...I can't say that with 100 percent certainty, but it looks that way. Scripted jewelry does occasionally cause crashes, contrary to my original assessment.

Anyway, thanks for the tips. Much appreciated.

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp <-- This modification may cause crashes (and inconsistencies) when run with OOO because OOO already includes G&GD. If you want a more advanced version of OOO's G&GD system, grab the OBSE rewrite. Remove this plugin, and see if that remedies some of the crashes. You probably need to do a clean save. Drop all of the jewelry from your inventory, save, remove the plugin, and relaunch.

You have to drop Natural Water if you are using Enhanced Water, by the way.

Popular Outdated Mod - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods <-- remove or trade up these

Ok, cool. I'll get rid of that...I've dropped natural water since posting that.

Thanks for the tips, learning a lot as I go here...