you've heard it a million times, game won't start it ctds

I've been workin on this all day, downloading the crap and I am exhausted atm.

its prob an easy fix but heres my list

Active Mod Files:00  HorseCombatMaster.esm01  Oblivion.esm02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.71]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  Artifacts.esm08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  ScreenEffects.esm0C  MerchantFriendsBuysStolen.esp  [Version 2.0]0D  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]0E  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]0F  Birthsigns Expanded.esp  [Version 3.]10  Birthsign Zero.esp11  RshAlchemy.esp12  nGCD.esp13  nGCD Birthsigns.esp14  TRAP.esp15  Disable Tutorial Text.esp16  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 2.5]17  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]18  DLCShiveringIsles.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.74]19  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]1A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]1B  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]1C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1D  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]1F  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]20  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]21  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]22  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]23  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]24  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]25  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]26  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]28  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]29  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2D  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]2E  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]30  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]31  Artifacts.esp32  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]33  MidasSpells.esp34  Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp35  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]37  Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp38  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp39  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]3A  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]3B  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]3C  CoblDeathFix.esp  [Version 1.20]3D  SM Bounty.esp  [Version 1.22c]3E  Enhanced Mercantile Progress.esp  [Version 1.0a]3F  Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp40  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]41  ScreenControls.esp42  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp43  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp44  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp45  Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp  [Version 1.1]46  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp47  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]48  Bashed Patch, 0.esp49  FearsomeMagicka.esp4A  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]4B  Morrowind Lockpicking.esp4C  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp4D  zCats & Rats.esp4E  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]4F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]50  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp51  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]54  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]56  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]58  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]59  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5B  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5C  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5D  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5E  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5F  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]61  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]62  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]63  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]64  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]65  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]66  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]67  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]68  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]69  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]6A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.0.6]6B  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.0]6C  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]

Also it was giving me some crap about missing masters for fran (in wryebash) but I installed both fran .exes so I have no clue what it is im missing.

Your FCOM install is wrong. FCOM has not been installed properly. Grab TheNiceOne's FCOM OMOD Installer and do this over again. You have not install Bob's correctly either. I have not even looked at that LO closely. I am too tired, and that list has a bunch of problems.


Good night everyone...
- Tomlong75210


Edit: FCOM_Francescos is fine. It's the rest of the Fran install that is problematic.

Thats what I used... I used his fcom omod installer i followed it word for word and tbh i don't feel like redoing it all over again.

Well i deleted that file you said and it now launches, but it freezes while the loading bar is moving.......

just one problem after another.. well im getting some sleep. if anyone has any ideas as to why this is happening lemme kno

Based on those missing masters I'd say the likely culprit is a botched Francesco's install. FCOM requires the Optional Chance for Stronger Enemies / Bosses. You can try to correct the problem with an uninstall/reinstall of Fran's, but you might be better off doing the whole thing from scratch again.

Did it never occur to you to ask your questions http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1093088-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom-relz/ where you problem will be properly answered in usually no more than two posts instead of starting a thread?

First of all. Run BOSS. That install as it has been pointed out is completely wrong. And more than that, you have a lot of compatibility issues with other mods that will be solved in a flash with BOSS.



Tom - why remove FCOM_Francescos.esp? He's using frans and it says to use it only if you're using frans. Unless that means if you're running Frans by itself and not with FCOM.

Wow... you people are suggesting things I've already done.

I installed a fresh copy of oblivion,

Decided, hey I won't install FCOm manually (Which always works for me...)

i'll try this niceguys omod installers instead.

Installed MMM omod

Installed the 4 other mods and the mods it says to have before installing FCOM omod (bobs armory etc bla bla)

Finally install FCOM OMOD

Install all other mods I want.

Ran BOSS

Cleaned up what it said to clean up

Batched patch

And now i have this.

Then BOSS is not working, since it would put the Bashed Patch last (or close to it). Did you fix the missing masters? You need both stronger enemies/boss from frans to continue.

did you update boss masterlist (lots of stuff looks out of place)? deadly reflex should be waaaaaaaaaaaay down and mmm - extra wounding shouldnt be used with dr
also i'm pretty sure that horsecombatmaster.esm should be last esm to load

Yea i have the latest one from May

Where is this? cause I downloaded both from here

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=268

lock times off in wrye bash?
for stronger enemies/bosses you have to select option during frans instalation

well if thats the case, than its installed already

Uninstall and reinstall Francesco's, being very careful to choose all the options that are required as listed on the FCOM homepage.

You are definitely missing several important files from Francesco's, so saying "its installed already" won't help.

Yea I did that about 15 min ago, its fixed now.

Thanks for everyones help.

nevermind then.

I was tired. The problem was the Fran install. Not that.


Edit: Basically, all that is wrong is that Fran is not installed correctly, and that load order is a disaster. Reinstalling Fran, renaming the Fran BSA, and sorting that LO with BOSS should fix most things.