H-h-holy Stuttering, Batman! : Fallout 3

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:24 am

So, new PC, maybe I can finally run MMM with increased spawns?

Well, maybe. I haven't gotten that far yet, because while my framerate seems to be silky smooth most of the time, every second or so there's a little stutter. This is quite irritating.
There's no difference between all graphical settings on high and on low, there's no difference with or without texture packs, I can be in a tiny hut or in the wasteland and the stutter cares not.

I have plenty of free RAM, and nothing hitting my CPU, my hard drive lies idle until fallout requests data, which is given to it at well below top read speed with the highest response times at around 40ms. It's never hitting swap.

Where's the bottleneck? Why am I stuttering when on every measure I have room to spare!

Load Order Ahoy:

Spoiler

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
StreetLights.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
HairPack.esm
Inventory Access.esm
Impervious Power Armour.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
EVE.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
AutoGates.esp
UndergroundHideout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
Powered Power Armor.esp
PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp
PPA - Broken Steel.esp
PPA - The Pitt.esp
PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp
PPA - FWE.esp
No Scopeless Zooming - PPA Edition.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
PPA - Readius.esp
Owned!.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
phada_natural_regen.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
1PipboyPDA.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Total active plugins: 64
Total plugins: 75

Specifications, Ho!

Spoiler

Phenom II X2 555 BE (2 cores @ 3.2GHz, no OC)
4GB DDR3 RAM
GTS 450 (1GB VRAM)

While certainly far from the machine to end all machines, if I could at least track down the bottleneck I could attempt to reduce it!

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:01 pm

Holy http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8886 ... Kapow

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208 (probably contains the latest version of all three) ... .... blam

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:52 pm

Holy http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8886 ... Kapow

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208 (probably contains the latest version of all three) ... .... blam

Oh, sorry, I meant to write that it was the same with or without FSR, though I didn't change any of the settings.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:15 am

Yeah I'd read up on changing heap settings.

Skyranger~1 is, thankfully, currently very active on http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1167762-relz-oblivion-stutter-remover/ - I'm sure he could field F3 questions though. And I think also on the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1140472-relz-beta-new-vegas-stutter-remover/. Probably better to ask there.

The two settings to alter are in this section:

Heap = {	_comment = Heap replacement can produce MAJOR improvements in performance on Oblivion at a significant cost in stability	_comment = It crashes instantly on Fallout3, and would only produce a small performance improvement there anyway	_comment = It is not supported at all on Fallout: New Vegas at this time	_comment = Algorithms: 1=FastMM4 (requires external dll), 2=Microsoft (slow on XP), 3=SimpleHeap1, 5=ThreadHeap2	iHeapAlgorithm = 5	bEnableProfiling = 0	iHeapSize = 250	bEnableMessages = 0	iGenericFreeDelay = 0}

Try changing the heap algorithm and or IHeapSize.

But Algorithm first.

You don't have quad core, but do you have 64 bit OS? If so check out the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1118450-oblivion-and-memory-usage/

... and ask Skyranger - that guy knows things.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:30 pm

Yeah I'd read up on changing heap settings.

Skyranger~1 is, thankfully, currently very active on http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1167762-relz-oblivion-stutter-remover/ - I'm sure he could field F3 questions though. And I think also on the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1140472-relz-beta-new-vegas-stutter-remover/. Probably better to ask there.

The two settings to alter are in this section:

Heap = {	_comment = Heap replacement can produce MAJOR improvements in performance on Oblivion at a significant cost in stability	_comment = It crashes instantly on Fallout3, and would only produce a small performance improvement there anyway	_comment = It is not supported at all on Fallout: New Vegas at this time	_comment = Algorithms: 1=FastMM4 (requires external dll), 2=Microsoft (slow on XP), 3=SimpleHeap1, 5=ThreadHeap2	iHeapAlgorithm = 5	bEnableProfiling = 0	iHeapSize = 250	bEnableMessages = 0	iGenericFreeDelay = 0}

Try changing the heap algorithm and or IHeapSize.

But Algorithm first.

You don't have quad core, but do you have 64 bit OS? If so check out the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1118450-oblivion-and-memory-usage/

... and ask Skyranger - that guy knows things.

Hm, I changed the algorithm to 3 (SimpleHeap1) and there was no stuttering in a few moments of testing, so that may have solved the issue. If not, thanks anyway, I'll ask SR~1 if it returns - guys who know things about stuff are always good guys to know.

Thanks