Brink Engine For TES? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:00 am

http://www.brinkthegame.com/
See SMART system.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:56 am

i don't think so. Brink's engine is more geared toward Shooters.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:29 pm

They could obviously tweak it...
But I guess I see it working much better in Fallout.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:09 am

I could see them using the Rage engine in the future.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:45 am

would be sweet if they did. not that i'd like to see TES become a fast paced fps. but at times it would be good.

rather than R....R (stumbles) L....R....RB (Magic).....R.

Combat system should be totally overhauled

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:25 am

would be sweet if they did. not that i'd like to see TES become a fast paced fps. but at times it would be good.

rather than R....R (stumbles) L....R....RB (Magic).....R.

Combat system should be totally overhauled

I believe this may be the combat overhaul you've been looking for; http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=keyboard+and+mouse

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:18 am

Actually that would be awesome for say acrobatics.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:33 am

I believe this may be the combat overhaul you've been looking for; http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=keyboard+and+mouse

lol. agreed. nothing can replace keyboard and mouse. it's the precision and comfort man, especially the former.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:39 am

I guess it could work, but it really doesn't fit TES.
Maybe for Thieves and Assassins?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:24 am

I guess it could work, but it really doesn't fit TES.
Maybe for Thieves and Assassins?

Maybe Bethesda could incorporate the SMART system into their current engine, thats all i think thats even worth taking from that engine imo.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:16 am

Maybe Bethesda could incorporate the SMART system into their current engine, thats all i think thats even worth taking from that engine imo.

I think that using SMART in their games would not be a cool thing to do, it is like stealing from Splash Damage.

And Brink uses id Tech 4 (id Tech 5 is Rage's engine), that engine isn't suitable for open world games, a Bethesda developer (Todd I think) said this in an interview. That Gamebryo is good for huge RPG games and that id Tech engine is good for FPS games in enclosed environments rather than big open worlds.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:26 am

Wot u talkin' 'bout Willis?

Rage is gonig to be a huge open world game.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:21 am

It would take decades to SMART an entire TES world. Every surface needs to be tested for SMART compatibility or the S won't work well. Besides, TES games aren't supposed to be fast paced FPS's.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:51 pm

Wot u talkin' 'bout Willis?

Rage is gonig to be a huge open world game.

Bethesda Game Director Todd Howard explained in a separate interview with IGN that his game would not use id Tech 5. The studio's new engine built for its upcoming title is more beneficial to creating huge, open-world games, such as Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, while id Tech 5 is better for more contained environments.

"We decided to really reboot our technology after Fallout 3, so we had been making plans for that and started doing some things. The id thing came along later, so it's a mix of that plus the kinds of games we do are a bit bigger and more dynamic.

"Id Tech 5 is the best thing in the world at doing a very static environment that looks pretty and you're going to run through. But for the kinds of things I like to do, I like the world to be more dynamic."

This is what I am talking about

http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1112464p1.html

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:23 pm

Bethesda's number one consideration when it comes to engines is will it support a large open environment with a large number of NPCs and items. Brink and RAGE aren't set up for these environments so it wouldn't work for an Elder Scrolls game . . . at least not in the core series.

SMART is neat and I could see including something like it if it was combined (and scaled) with the acrobatics score. The differences in armor weight even match up well with the differences in Brink's character size. You certainly wouldn't want a system like this available from the get go or every character will have the ability to bounce all over the place.

And Brink uses id Tech 4 (id Tech 5 is Rage's engine), that engine isn't suitable for open world games, a Bethesda developer (Todd I think) said this in an interview. That Gamebryo is good for huge RPG games and that id Tech engine is good for FPS games in enclosed environments rather than big open worlds.

Technically I believe Brink uses id tech 3 as it's base although it's so heavily modified none of the engine remains untouched.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:48 am

That SMART system looks amazing, but it features so prominently in the game that they design the terrain around it. I don't think they should devote that much attention to one aspect of an Elder Scrolls game.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:53 am

That SMART system looks amazing, but it features so prominently in the game that they design the terrain around it. I don't think they should devote that much attention to one aspect of an Elder Scrolls game.

That's a very good point, having to fine-tune the entire landscape of a sandbox world to work with SMART would be a herculean task.