crash on NEW save

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:13 am

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9b3]06  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]07  Better Cities Resources.esm08  bookplacing.esm09  BathingMod_Base.esm0A  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0B  HorseCombatMaster.esm0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]0D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]12  Better Cities .esp13  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]16  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]17  MIS.esp18  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp19  LightsOut.esp1A  Cities Alive At Night.esp1B  WindowLightingSystem.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp1C  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp1D  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp1E  diversegrasses.esp1F  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]20  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp21  personality_idles4.esp22  P1DseeYouSleep.esp23  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]24  Living Economy.esp25  Living Economy - Items.esp26  Cutthroat Merchants.esp27  moDem's City Life.esp28  FF_Real_Thirst.esp**  Book Jackets DLC.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp++  doofdillas_potions_recolored_sorted_v0_3_1.esp  [Version 0.3.1]++  FineWeapons.esp++  RustyItems.esp29  Extinguish the Lights.esp**  Armamentium female.esp2A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2C  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp2D  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]2E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]30  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9b5]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp31  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b1]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Wyvern.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp36  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp38  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]39  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3A  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp3B  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp3C  za_bankmod.esp3D  Knights.esp3E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 3.7b3]3F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]40  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]41  xulTheHeath.esp42  XulEntiusGorge.esp43  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]44  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]45  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]46  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]47  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]48  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]49  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]4A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]4B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]4C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]4D  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]4E  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]4F  xulPantherRiver.esp50  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]51  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]52  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]53  xulBlackwoodForest.esp54  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]55  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]56  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp57  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]58  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]59  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp5A  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp5B  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]5C  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]5D  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]5E  Wrye Shivering Death.esp  [Version 05]5F  BathingMod_Soap.esp60  BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp61  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp62  RealisticFatigue.esp63  RealisticHealth.esp64  RealisticForceMedium.esp65  RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp66  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.1]67  StealthOverhaul.esp68  Morrowind Lockpicking.esp69  RenGuardOverhaul.esp6A  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp6B  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]6C  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp6D  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp6E  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp6F  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp70  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]71  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]72  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]73  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]74  ProgressRacial.esp75  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]76  RealisticLeveling.esp++  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]77  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp78  MAO - Patch.esp79  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil.esp7A  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp7B  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]**  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp7C  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]7D  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp7E  Better Cities Full.esp7F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp80  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp81  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp82  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp83  BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp84  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp85  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp86  Better Imperial City.esp87  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]88  OOO-Respawn_Week.esp  [Version 1.33]++  Life Detected - OMOD.esp89  MotionBlur.esp++  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]8A  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]8B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp8C  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 2.5]8D  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]8E  Streamline 3.1.esp


my load order exported from wrye
(which is basically set by BOSS)

So title says it all--i've never experienced this sort of problem and this is my first time playing oblivion on this windows 7 pc.

all my streamsaves are fine, but my last real save I crashed to desktop and when i attempted to load it, it said it's corrupt. I know this can happen by saving over the same slot multiple times but this was a brand new save...

anyone know what could be the problem?

Thanks in advance,

K
User avatar
Ludivine Dupuy
 
Posts: 3418
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:51 pm

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:45 am

Unless it happens repeatedly, it's just Windows/Oblivion temporarily losing its mind.
User avatar
GabiiE Liiziiouz
 
Posts: 3360
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:20 am

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:19 am

well it happened again..

I can't seem to save after exiting the sewers, or maybe there's a specific point in the sewers that something goes wrong. After sleeping in the IC, it says "you cannot save right now" when a streamsave attempt is made. Is there something that's making oblivion think I have an enemy around? any way to change this?
User avatar
Claire Lynham
 
Posts: 3432
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:42 am

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:03 am

Enemies don't affect saves.

Try disabling this just for a test: 5E Wrye Shivering Death.esp [Version 05]
User avatar
Eileen Collinson
 
Posts: 3208
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:42 am

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:07 am

no luck...

Though it seems that the game is saving just fine as long as it's a new game...i.e. no crashes as I make my way through the beginning caves/sewers.

However, if i quit, start oblivion again, load a game, then save after that load, it crashes and the game saves a corrupt file.

Very strange, and I have no idea what could be causing this
User avatar
Leticia Hernandez
 
Posts: 3426
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:46 am

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:38 am

Do you have oblivion saves turned off? Did you modify the streamline save settings: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/streamline

You may want to deactivate streamile, see how that goes, then activate again so it reinitializes. I think there is a way to do it in console but do not remember.
User avatar
jess hughes
 
Posts: 3382
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:10 pm

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:07 am

Do you have oblivion saves turned off? Did you modify the streamline save settings: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/streamline

You may want to deactivate streamile, see how that goes, then activate again so it reinitializes. I think there is a way to do it in console but do not remember.


yes I disabled all of the autosaves, though it still does it during my time in the sewers ( assuming scripted areas )

thanks for the link, i'll configure SL like that and see how it goes
User avatar
Oyuki Manson Lavey
 
Posts: 3438
Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:47 am

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:41 am

yes I disabled all of the autosaves, though it still does it during my time in the sewers ( assuming scripted areas )

thanks for the link, i'll configure SL like that and see how it goes


this is very annoying. i set SL to those settings, reinitialized, no luck.

started a brand new game without SL..everything was going fine using manual saves. I crashed right after editing my character, which i figured was normal. loaded my last save just fine-----but then ran into the same problem: all subsequent saves inside or outside the sewer result in a CTD and an unloadable game.

while i'd love to just leave the game running 24/7 without saving, my roomates would be unhappy with the energy bill..


has anyone experienced anything like this?
User avatar
Adrian Powers
 
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:44 pm

Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:29 pm

Oblivion WILL crash sooner or later so the 24/7 option will not work :)

I have not run into this issue ever, but someone must have. Strange things like this, i think the steps to take would be:
Delete and recreate the oblivion.ini (but watch for mods that edited it like DanUI)
Remove mods until the problem goes away (starting with mods that change timescale, saves, performance)
Look at OBSE (worth a shot) if you have the latest version
Look at pluggy (check you have the latest version or remove if no mod needs it)

Remove and reinstall Oblivion, then reinstall all the mods (big job). Can't tell you how many times I have done that. Sometimes, that is the quickest option, can probably do in a day as compared to troubleshooting for a week.

Wish I could be of more help.
User avatar
Lori Joe
 
Posts: 3539
Joined: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:10 am


Return to IV - Oblivion