I cannot edit so i will post this here. My friend Greg had mods on his Oblivion save then used it, so there could be mods plus i got outside the map on accident and got in too many errors, so the console could help get me out. And Oblivion gets a bit boring after 40 min into the game so it would be nice to use a console but like Sychosis has stated: "If people want to use it to cheat, let them cheat. Big deal. Use of the console could disable achievements/trophies. It's been done before." So you can use the console to create small armies and fight or use it so that you can fix a glitch ex: a quest item has fallen inside walls ex: the ring of burden i had had gone inside a locked house. You could disable achievements for console use rather than take it out, like this picture... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/lepriconeater/Oblivion3.jpg[/img]
1. I'm not worked up about achievements, personally.
2. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say about your friend greg. So he uses mods, and what does that have to do with this?
3. get stuck outside the map, reload a save. You really don't need the console for that. Get an error, reload a save.
4. So if oblivion get's boring, play something else? No reason to give accesss to the dev console just because some players feel a tad bored.
5. lose a quest item, reload a save.
6. creating armies with the console will just make the system chug, and depending on the codes you use and the frequency of use you could bloat your savegame.