Hello Folks,

I'm gettin a CTD everytime I try to enter the Imperial City, and its kickin my butt. Just updated Boss and ran that, to no avail. Here are my mods. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  ScreenEffects.esm* 02  You Are Here.esm* 03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]* 04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm* 07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]* 08  Better Cities Resources.esm* 09  BetterMusicSystem.esm* 0A  HorseCombatMaster.esm* 0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]* 0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]* 0E  Better Cities .esp* 0F  LoadingScreens.esp* 10  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.7]* 11  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.7]* 12  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.7]* ++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]* 13  AmbientTownSounds.esp* 14  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.2]* 15  AliveWaters.esp* 16  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp* 17  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp* 18  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp* **  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp* 19  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp* 1A  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp* 1B  personality_idles4.esp* 1C  Living Economy - Items.esp* 1D  Crowded Cities 15.esp* 1E  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]* 1F  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp* 20  DC-Armor-Pack.esp* 21  Mage Equipment.esp* 22  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]* 23  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]* 24  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]* ++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]* 25  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 26  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 27  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]* ++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]* ++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]* ++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]* ++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]* 28  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]* ++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]* **  Mart's Monster Mod.esp* 29  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp* 2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp* 2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp* 2C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp* 2D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp* ++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]* ++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]* 2E  Cats & Rats for MMM.esp* 2F  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]* ++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]* 30  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp* ++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]* ++  300 Feudal Empire.esp* 31  GlenvarCastle.esp* 32  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp* 33  24HrArenaAliveV2.esp* 34  TOTF.esp* 35  Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp* 36  ElsweyrAnequina.esp* 37  ElsweyrAnequinaNoSpiders.esp* 38  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.3]* 39  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.1]* 3A  xulTheHeath.esp* 3B  XulEntiusGorge.esp* 3C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]* 3D  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp* 3E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2]* 3F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]* 40  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.2]* 41  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]* 42  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]* 43  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.1]* 44  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]* 45  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 46  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.2]* 47  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]* 48  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]* 49  xulPantherRiver.esp* 4A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 4B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* 4C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]* 4D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp* 4E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0]* 4F  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* 50  Castle_Seaview.esp* 51  CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 52  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 1.3.2]* 53  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp* 54  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]* ++  more books teach.esp* 55  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]* 56  ReneersTrainingMod.esp* 57  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]* 58  SetsunaDummyTraining.esp* ++  SigilStonesUnlevelled.esp* ++  SigilStonesUnlevelled - Adjusted.esp* 59  Alternate Start Revamped.esp* 5A  MidasSpells.esp* 5B  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp* 5C  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp* **  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]* **  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]* 5D  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp* 5E  Better Cities Full.esp* 5F  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp* 60  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp* 61  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp* 62  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp* 63  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp* 64  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* 65  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp* 66  Better Imperial City.esp* 67  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp* 68  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp* 69  Get Wet Dark.esp* 6A  ScreenControls.esp* 6B  Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp* 6C  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]* **  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp* 6D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp* 6E  FormID Finder4.esp* 6F  Streamline 3.1.esp* 70  Visual Enchantments v0.9.esp* 71  10k Merchant.esp= Cobl RulesThis ruleset covers Cobl (Common Oblivion) and related mods.=== CONFIGURATION: Cobl Main.esmx Cobl Glue.esp --  Glues Cobl items into vanilla lists, cellsx Cobl Si.esp --  Glues Cobl items into Shivering Isles cells.+ Cobl Tweaks.esp --  Adds Cobl items to creatures and NPCs.o Cobl Races.esp --  Additional races, hairs, eyes.o Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp --  Adds foods from various mods to the Dinner Plate. (Requires OBSE.)

Try disabling the Better Imperial city plugin and see if that helps.

oh my super old version of MMM running..

Has you are missing the MMMForOOOO.esm..

you should either update to lastest MMM 3.7b3

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or remove these

mart's monster mod.esp

MMM diverse imperial armor and creatures skins those are intergrated into MMMForOOO already..which could be causing the crash..

but you should really update your MMM...

and get rid of Cats & Rats for MMM that is also most likely causing ctd has well ..

I haven't been playing for awhile, so I'm not surprised I'm not up to date. Thanks a lot guys!

While you are at it:


I think you only want one of these. The second is (if I recall correctly) the same as the first, but is compatible with Book Placement.


I know you only want one of these. The second if using Better Cities (which you are) - it's a replacement esp.


I don't use OOO or MMM, but you should check if those are replacement or additional esp files. You might not need them all.


Pretty sure you don't want Both 'vanilla' and 'OOO' versions in play. Check the readme that comes with Armamentarium.


Remove the "BC" versions, they are efectively the same as the "Better Cities - " ones.

If nothing else, it will lighten your load order a bit.

probably not related to you crashes but it looks like you have 2 version of visual enchantments.

So far I've done the fixes suggested by CorePc and everything is fairly stable. I'll go back through my mods and delete the ones you've guys suggested. Thanks. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. This is truly one of the best communities out there.