I'm actually not offended. I only posted in disagreement to your assertion that Oblivion didn't have depth. I was just explaining that some people were offended, that's why they were posting in this thread. PS3_DLC for example, was offended, as illustrated in his post on the first page of the thread.

I laughed, because its so true.

This is really opinionated, and asking for trouble between Oblivion and Morrowind fans. I'll just state now that I'm an Oblivion fan, and walk away. Saying one game is better than the other is rediculous. The games shouldn't even be compaired to one another.

Sphagne, when the first Oblivion info was released, did you think that the game would be amazing? Or did you think it would be a huge step backwards? Were you as confident as you are now?

Barbarians are becoming Archmage because...well, I don't know. I guess everyone's too busy worrying about Necromancers to concern themselves with whether or not all of their members are focusing on studying magic. You can't join Necromancers because the player and Mannimarco together would destroy the Mages Guild and be too much of an unstoppable force. It's the same reason why you can't join Dagoth Ur in Morrowind.


Because it's the Fighters Guild, not the you-can't-use-magicka guild. If you fulfill contracts and do as you're told, it doesn't matter what type of combat you use. You can't join the Blackwood Company because it uses the Hist which causes insanity in non-Argonians and it would not make sense for the player to join it without needing to destroy the Hist Tree and that causes the Blackwood Company to collapse onto itself.


Because you didn't. You learn of the traitor and get confirmation that it was not Lachance but you are never told who the traitor is. That's why you have to wait until they see the Night Mother, because you know of his plans and you know he will reveal his identity and try to attack the Night Mother.

Yes. Vivec, though not the main antagonist, was a really well - written character for the same reasons I mentioned above (internal conflict, complexity, and a very inspired interpretation of what a god-like being should be like), I couldn't agree more. I have to disagree on Oblivion quests however. Firstly, repetitive "get X number of Y items" type of quests have been around since forever, and in no way did WoW invent them. Secondly, in Oblivion there was a clear attempt to move away from that paradigm towards more unpredictable quests. In fact, this was my favorite thing about Oblivion, and admittedly one of the few things Oblivion handled better than Morrowind. The side quests and guild quests for the most part were much more interesting.

I actually liked Morrowind a bit better than Oblivion (both are great games though), but I just had to point that out lol.

I'd say, lets just forget Obliv + MW and hope for the best.

Despite less skills, that doesn't mean the world is going to be terrible. There's talk of working economies, and industries. Plus, something that made me really glad was seeing the St. Olaf effigy burning holiday is in. That. Is. Awesome. The bard's college is confirmed as well. We don't have enough info to really judge if it will lack depth. The dragon language puzzle was a great way to assure people that they are considering the world they're building. So I'll wait and see.

I'm a hardcoe gamer and I like Oblivion.

The main story in Morrowind was one of the best I've ever experienced. MUCH deeper than Oblivion's.

The world itself was much deeper in Morrowind. The cities, the history (of basically of everything), the quests, the dungeons (i.e. some dungeons had these notes written by now dead people about their last moments, which just added a lot of meaning to the dungeon).

Oblivion felt much more shallow and "weak".

I wish and hope Bethesda have realized how great Morrowind was in this sense, and that they will bring this back to Skyrim.

Yes, I was.

It was the next install next of the series that included a gem of a game like Morrowind.

But I know more now, and they have released Fallout 3, and they have learned, and those features that they have shown us about Skyrim, WOW, they have to screw quite a lot of things to be able to ruin Skyrim for us.

So I'm confident now, again.

Since this thread has served as flamebait fans of one game or the other pitting one group of members against the other and continued to have posts inferring one or the other are either immature, stupid, not deep or just kids....too casual, or other such insults...it's closed.

These comparative threads of Morrowind vs Oblivion actually belong in the "series section" anyway and have been going on for 6 years now with no agreement still. Better to let it rest and look forward to what will just be another game to add to the heap of some like it some don't.