This is probably my billionth time reinstalling Oblivion to play again, except this time I'm using my new laptop to play so I'm excited to see how this will work out. Unfortunately I think there may be an issue somewhere with my load order because the game freezes at the loading screen (IIRC, this is what happens when there is a mod conflict). So if someone could check my load order out, that'd be much appreciated.

Cobl Main.esmEnhanced Daedric Invasion.esmTamrielTravellers.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmOblivion.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmFran Armor Add-on.espFran_Lv30Item_Maltz.espNatural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.espLiving Economy.espLiving Economy - Items.espCutthroat Merchants.espNexonsArmoryENG.espPTArtifacts.espKDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.espFCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.espExnemRuneskulls.espFCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.espCobl Glue.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espFCOM_Cobl.espLoth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.espFCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.espOOO-Water_Weeds.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.espMart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espMart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.espTamrielTravellerAdvScript.espTamrielTravellers4OOO.espTamrielTravellersItemsNPC.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espFCOM_TamrielTravelers.espFCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.espFCOM_BobsGuardUnity.espFCOM_Archery.espFCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.espFCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.espFCOM_FriendlierFactions.espFCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.espFCOM_MoreRandomItems.espOOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.espOOO-WaterFish.espMMM-Cobl.espMighty Umbra.espMannimarcoRevisited.espMannimarcoRevisitedOOO.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espFCOM_MightyUmbra.espFCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.espFCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.espxuldarkforest.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espMMMMWL-TheHeath patch.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulAncientYews.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRollingHills_EV.espMMMMWL-RollingHills patch.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulAspenWood.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espFCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espDLCShiveringIsles.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.espFCOM_Francescos.espFCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCThievesDen.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_RealSwords.espDLCFrostcrag.espKnights.espStreamline 3.1.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espTyrael Armor.espMidasSpells.espBashed Patch, 0.espNew Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.espLich King's Helm v1_0.esp

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516

First off, use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 with the latest http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/source/browse/ to sort your load order. A lot of things are in the wrong places, like FCOM being loaded nearly last

Strange, I am using BOSS. However I think Wrye Bash keeps resetting my load order. Meh.

Oh, I'll suggest BOSS, I might be helpful!
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I'll be quicker next time

EDIT: Its been locked, you'll have to unlock the load order (column header context menu)

In the Mods window, right click on the File header, find Lock Times and Uncheck it...

Unlocked and reordered, here's what I have now (unfortunately Oblivion still won't load though)

Oblivion.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmCobl Main.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmEnhanced Daedric Invasion.esmTamrielTravellers.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmDLCShiveringIsles.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.espFCOM_Francescos.espFCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espFran Armor Add-on.espFran_Lv30Item_Maltz.espNatural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espLiving Economy.espLiving Economy - Items.espCutthroat Merchants.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espLich King's Helm v1_0.espNew Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.espNexonsArmoryENG.espPTArtifacts.espTyrael Armor.espDLCThievesDen.espKDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.espFCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.espExnemRuneskulls.espFCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.espCobl Glue.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espFCOM_Cobl.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espLoth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.espFCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOOO-Water_Weeds.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_RealSwords.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.espMart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espMart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.espTamrielTravellerAdvScript.espTamrielTravellers4OOO.espTamrielTravellersItemsNPC.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espFCOM_TamrielTravelers.espFCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.espFCOM_BobsGuardUnity.espFCOM_Archery.espFCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.espFCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.espFCOM_FriendlierFactions.espFCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.espFCOM_MoreRandomItems.espOOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.espOOO-WaterFish.espMMM-Cobl.espDLCFrostcrag.espKnights.espMighty Umbra.espMannimarcoRevisited.espMannimarcoRevisitedOOO.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espFCOM_MightyUmbra.espFCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.espFCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.espxuldarkforest.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espMMMMWL-TheHeath patch.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulAncientYews.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRollingHills_EV.espMMMMWL-RollingHills patch.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulAspenWood.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espFCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.espMidasSpells.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espBashed Patch, 0.espStreamline 3.1.esp

Can you provide a mod list by accessing the same menu where you turned off Lock Times and choosing the "List Mods" option?

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]09  HorseCombatMaster.esm0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp0F  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]10  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  Fran Armor Add-on.esp13  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp14  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp15  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp16  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp17  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp18  Living Economy.esp19  Living Economy - Items.esp1A  Cutthroat Merchants.esp1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp1C  DLCOrrery.esp1D  DLCVileLair.esp1E  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1F  DLCSpellTomes.esp20  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp21  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp22  NexonsArmoryENG.esp23  PTArtifacts.esp24  Tyrael Armor.esp25  DLCThievesDen.esp26  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]27  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]28  ExnemRuneskulls.esp29  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp2B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2C  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2D  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2F  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp31  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp33  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]35  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]36  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]38  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]45  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]46  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4A  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]4B  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]4C  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp50  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]51  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]52  DLCFrostcrag.esp53  Knights.esp54  Mighty Umbra.esp55  MannimarcoRevisited.esp56  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]57  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]58  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]59  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp5B  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5C  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]5D  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5E  xulTheHeath.esp5F  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp60  XulEntiusGorge.esp61  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]62  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]63  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]64  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]65  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]66  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]67  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]68  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]69  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6A  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]6B  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]6C  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]6D  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp6E  xulPantherRiver.esp6F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]71  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]72  xulBlackwoodForest.esp73  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]74  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]75  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp76  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]77  MidasSpells.esp78  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp79  Bashed Patch, 0.esp7A  Streamline 3.1.esp

Nothing's been deactivated. That would be the first thing that leaps out at me. I assume the Bashed Patch has been rebuilt...? If so, there are a few things that need to be unchecked. Pretty sure the latest Wrye Bash (version 2.85, with Python 2.6.5 and extensions for that) will insist, or even do that for you though...

Click on the Mod Checker icon at the bottom of the Wrye Bash screen to get a bit of help there.

On a minor note, you don't need Exnem Runeskulls, or the FCOM addon for it. MMM covers that, from memory. In addition , check the latest MMM thread for more updates and info. And the latest FCOM thread has invaluable advice for tagging FCOM and OOO items.


edit: Aha, showler picked up the couple I couldn't remember.

edit2: And I might be wrong about the deactivation. It just looks that way, but I might be getting two mod listing procedures confused. Sorry, if so! Didn't mean to mislead or cause undue alarm.

Okay

08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

You'll want to update your FCOM to the UFCOM release in the FCOM thread.

28 ExnemRuneskulls.esp
29 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

Dump these two, since Runeskulls have been integrated into MMM. Just use the new MMM Runeskulls Loot for OOO option.

2D FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

Temporarily remove this. You're caught between versions and there is a doubling effect to having this running with OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp and MMM-Cobl.esp

3F Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

Need to grab the fixed version of this from MMM thread. Quite serious issue probable with the version you have.

41 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

This is the one you'll want to swap with the OOO version. Gems and Gem Dust is being made completely redundant in future FCOM releases as well.

Try those changes first.

Thank you both, I'll try these changes in a moment.

I've used FCOM installs many times and never really had a problem. This time, however, rather than spending hours downloading everything for a full FCOM installation, I grabbed a torrent from another site that had an OMOD called FCOM 9.9 with a full FCOM install plus the UL. Probably wasn't the best idea now that I'm having issues.

Definitely not the way to do it, no. But you can always start again. No (permanent) harm done.

Hope you don't mind me asking directly (I know, I already mentioned it...) but - have you rebuilt the Bashed Patch, merging and importing what needs to be so, and deactivating those ESPs that should be?

I did rebuild the bashed patch, however I'm fairly sure I missed some things and I'm going to go back and rebuild it after I install the UFCOM update.



EDIT:





Works fine now, thanks a ton!

Copy/paste:

Make sure to use Ryu Doppler's fixed version of Natural Weather, and not the original, otherwise you'll get all sorts of bugs with it. Just search TES Nexus to find it.