Again not sure whether a mod like this exists already since it is such an obvious exploit.



http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32028

And another one

Thanks a lot Phitt :goodjob:

I love those important, "little" mods of yours Phitt

Just one wish, would you consider combining the combat mods into one larger combat mod, with ini file to enable/disable/tweak the various features? I can help you do it if you don't know how...

Thanks!

That sounds like a good idea. I have all my little mods merged for personal use, but an ini would be great to have for a complete mod. Never messed with an ini file, couldn't find much info on the OBSE site either. What I would need to know is how to make variables work from an ini file. I guess I could just have a look at your mods to find out.

Wow. Another awesome mod.

With a stealth kill, you don't actually enter combat, I don't think. Does this have any effect when the NPCs go into "alert" mode, like when they come across a dead body in "Fresh Kills alert NPCs"

No, the script only checks for combat. Unless NPCs attack you (combat music starts to play and they run towards you with a drawn sword etc) nothing changes.

It is actually much simpler than you think. The ini file just contains normal "set" statements, with the difference that they are qualified with the name of the quest. E.g. if the quest is named PTCombat, a typical ini file line may be "set PTCombat.actorsCare to 1"

Then, you call RunScriptLine with the name of your ini file from a GetGameLoaded check (since that is true once after each savegame load). Here's just a mock-up combining your two latest gems into one mod:

The script:

ScriptName PTCombatScriptshort combfloat fquestdelaytimeshort actorsCarefloat sneakmaxdistanceCombatfloat sneakmaxdistanceNonCombatshort actorsThroughLoadDoorInCombatfloat actorTeleportFadeSecondsbegin gamemode	if GetGameLoaded		; First time after savegame load				set fquestdelaytime to 1				; Read an ini file named "PT Combat tweaks.ini" found in data\ini. You may of course give it another name		; This is the recommended place for ini files, and where I put all mine		RunBatchScript "Data\ini\PT Combat tweaks.ini" 				if actorsCare			; Only tweak alert distance if actorsCare is set (to 1)			setnumericgamesetting fsneakmaxdistance sneakmaxdistanceNonCombat			set comb to 0		endif				if actorsThroughLoadDoorInCombat > 0			; Only tweak this if non-zero			setnumericgamesetting fSneakMaxDistance actorsThroughLoadDoorInCombat		endif				if actorTeleportFadeSeconds > 0			; Only tweak this if non-zero			setnumericgamesetting fActorTeleportFadeSeconds actorTeleportFadeSeconds		endif	endif	if actorsCare		; Only tweak alert distance if actorsCare is set (to 1)		if player.isincombat == 1			if comb == 0			  setnumericgamesetting fsneakmaxdistance sneakmaxdistanceCombat			  set comb to 1			endif		elseif comb == 1			setnumericgamesetting fsneakmaxdistance sneakmaxdistanceNonCombat			set comb to 0		endif	endifend

The ini file (named and placed as written above). I assume the quest name is PTCombat. If you choose another quest name, you must change it in the ini as well.

; Enable or disable different actor avareness in combatset PTCombat.actorsCare to 1; Set distance of enemy awareness in non-combat. Default 1500set PTCombat.sneakmaxdistanceNonCombat to 1500; Set distance of enemy awareness in combat. set PTCombat.sneakmaxdistanceCombat to 3000; Set Number of actors that can go follow through doors in combat. Default 2set PTCombat.actorsThroughLoadDoorInCombat to 6; Set Number of seconds actors need to fade in after going through doors. Default 1set PTCombat.actorTeleportFadeSeconds to 0.5

Note that I made the script a bit more complicated than needed. You didn't have to check for non-zero values, but I prefer to do so, in case the ini file is missing, or the player wants some other mod to control this, in case he can just set the relevant setting to 0 in the ini file.

Thanks! That looks like I can handle it. Will certainly be nice to have all mods in one. I love tweaking inis myself (don't know how often I tweaked EE and Oblivion XP inis till I got what I wanted) .

Man, now I understand how everyone else feels about Duke Patrick... his stuff isn't quite my style, but your recent little modstorm is pure gold.

Thanks a lot, phitt, it's funny that I accepted normal weird behavior from Oblivion AI for so long without thinking much about it.

Thank you! It always annoyed me that bandits didn't work together and that it was so easy to separate them. Downloading now.

I'd support merging your much needed mods, you're doing a great job towards getting rid of exploits from the game!

I'm joining the praise of your recent work too. Well done. This one is definitely goes into my mod list. And combining a bunch of your mods into an .ini driven one is an awesome idea.

Any more and I think I might love you.

Thanks! I'm going to die lots more now! XD

Wait... me or Phitt? :spotted owl:

Edit: Ack, did I actually space out on an opportunity to use this smiley? --> :hubbahubba:

So having tested this in for a few hours then out again - I think there may be an incompatibility with one or more mods I'm using.

The likely candidates are:
Kuertee NPCs Yield
ReneerNPCSneakMod
Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target
Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs

Or maybe something else. And it probably is the case that this is just the icing on the cake for a brew of conflcits below the surface and not at all caused by this.

What I've seen several times - and as a prep my character is level 22 in a full decked out FCOM world and exploring forts around the IC ... So Mauraders, Raiders, Ravagers, and so on. Each fight is tough to get through - 10 NPCs per room at least.

So I've seen instances where the NPCs get alerted by arrows that fly then go into a fight stance then just zone out. I've seen NPCs rush to a fight then try to initiate conversation with their fellows once there. Strangest of all I've seen an NPC flash lightening speed between holding a torch, going into opaque sneak mode (reneer), then into combat stance. I assume that he yielded, but other scripts were commanding him to come to the aid of his comrades so he was in that loop of peaceful, angry, hiding.

Seems like AI overload but with my game I rarely crash or have these issues in fort dungeons. Outside near an oblivion gate - yes, but not inside. Seems more like script conflicts to me.

I may at some point disable NPC yield and see how it works with those mods then, but as I think about it the last two DP mods kinda cover much of he same thing.

This mod only changes a single game setting that controls the max distance at which actors can ever see you. That setting is only changed once when you enter combat and once when you exit combat (when the combat music starts to play and when it stops playing). Of course it could be that one of the mods you mentioned makes use of the game setting for its own purposes. But I wouldn't know how it could cause weirdness like you described since the worst thing that could happen in case of a conflict is that my mod doesn't work (if another mod changes the game setting back when you enter combat).

What is the name of the setting?

Maybe I can examine and look closer.

I haven't played with music for so long - almost forgot what it is like.

Like I said - likely this mod is not to blame for any of this, but it seemed all this was less so without it active. Key word being seemed.

another mod that makes sense, if an enemy sees you then he/she would call all their buds to come and help murder you. Now they can