The Destruction of Yokuda

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:01 am

The Ra'Gada (Redguards) arrived in Hammerfell form their homeland of Yokuda. However more recent expeditions to Yokuda have found that in some form, it no longer exists.

Im not sure what happened but I want to hear other people's theories.
Please post them.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:40 am

as ive said: it got nuked. more precicely, the raga used a deadly sword technique that cuts the uncutable(atomos).
The fighting between the tombas amounted to an all-out civil war, which was exceedingly dangerous in a civilization with h-bomb sword fighting moves. One particularly fanatical faction was the Hiradirj, mentioned above. It is possible they believed that Yokuda itself had in some way lost its honor in an irrepairable way. It is possible they were bitter over a recent defeat. It is possible they believed they could control its destructive properties. For whatever reason, they did the unthinkable: they performed the pankratsword, cut the atomos, the uncutable, and sank Yokuda.

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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:29 am

Hmmm, I remember some mention about the Left Handed Elves using the Orichalc tower that they constructed to destroy Yokuda, either by accident or on purpose. However, the only reliable source I can find is from wikipedia, and I don't trust it when TIL isn't turning anything up.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:30 am

Maybe they stole the power of from the Daedric Prince Lorkhan or w/e his name was to enchant some super powerful sword and as a result someone used it to hit the ground and it sank or something like that. It doesn't make any sense to me how you can make a continent sink by a sword fighting technique.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:48 pm

as ive said: it got nuked. more precicely, the raga used a deadly sword technique that cuts the uncutable(atomos).
The fighting between the tombas amounted to an all-out civil war, which was exceedingly dangerous in a civilization with h-bomb sword fighting moves. One particularly fanatical faction was the Hiradirj, mentioned above. It is possible they believed that Yokuda itself had in some way lost its honor in an irrepairable way. It is possible they were bitter over a recent defeat. It is possible they believed they could control its destructive properties. For whatever reason, they did the unthinkable: they performed the pankratsword, cut the atomos, the uncutable, and sank Yokuda.



I think Lady Nerevar hit the nail on the head here folks.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:46 pm

Maybe they stole the power of from the Daedric Prince Lorkhan or w/e his name was to enchant some super powerful sword and as a result someone used it to hit the ground and it sank or something like that. It doesn't make any sense to me how you can make a continent sink by a sword fighting technique.

Cyrus feigned the technique during his second sword meeting with Vivec http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/viveccyrus.shtml . It also gives a little tidbit that it's no longer written down, because it's too dangerous, but it did happen.

And Lady Nerevar is right
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:28 pm

Where's the Pankratosword now?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:38 am

Maybe they stole the power of from the Daedric Prince Lorkhan or w/e his name was to enchant some super powerful sword and as a result someone used it to hit the ground and it sank or something like that. It doesn't make any sense to me how you can make a continent sink by a sword fighting technique.


Definately not. I guess it would be possible, but I am most definately against it, being the Ansei are beast. Supposedly, like Lady Nerevar said, the Redguard practitioners of Shehai got in a civil war. It got so bad they decided to end it with the unthinkable, splitting the atom(os) with their most secretive, uber technique. It blew up, killing thousands and destroying their home. The ansei probably all died out, or were killed by survivors to prevent that from ever happening again, and then they came to Tamriel. (Or, as she said, they didn't use it to end the war, but could've done it after. Anything is possible when little facts are available)


Where's the Pankratosword now?


The Pankratosword, I believe, was not a weapon, but a technique. I gather this from the fact Lady Nerevar called it "Performing the Pankratosword" as opposed to using it. So, that would mean the "sword" aka the technique, died along with the Ansei. If a practitioner of Shehai lived, it is possible he/she could do it again, but the secret could have been lost forever. Of course, it could be re-discovered, and that'd be dangerous.

PS Don't trust me on this, but I'm thinking you could equate this to the bombing of Hiroshima in WWII. Of course, Japan didn't sink, but the similaritites of the weapon sound similar. I'm not saying this as a conspircy theory, those are too abundant to talk about, but just to help you remember that the Pankratosword was like nuclear fission, not the actual bomb, I'm sure the use of such a technique, if only used once in recorded history, the technique would be synanomous with its use. Trying to think of an example for that...

Thanks, and never trust what I say, because everyone is wrong. Always.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:19 am

The Pankratosword, I believe, was not a weapon, but a technique. I gather this from the fact Lady Nerevar called it "Performing the Pankratosword" as opposed to using it. So, that would mean the "sword" aka the technique, died along with the Ansei. If a practitioner of Shehai lived, it is possible he/she could do it again, but the secret could have been lost forever. Of course, it could be re-discovered, and that'd be dangerous.

PS Don't trust me on this, but I'm thinking you could equate this to the bombing of Hiroshima in WWII. Of course, Japan didn't sink, but the similarities of the weapon sound similar. I'm not saying this as a conspiracy theory, those are too abundant to talk about, but just to help you remember that the Pankratosword was like nuclear fission, not the actual bomb, I'm sure the use of such a technique, if only used once in recorded history, the technique would be synonymous with its use. Trying to think of an example for that...

Thanks, and never trust what I say, because everyone is wrong. Always.

That sounds pretty much right.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:55 pm

the quote in my first post belongs to Sload, so it is he who has it right :) the sword meeting stated (afair) that the technique was forbidden from use due to its destructive powers, and TR lore has it being wiped from peoples memory via CHIM. which i think is cool and therefore right.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:31 pm

Vehk wiped from living memory?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:29 pm

Vivec wasn't the only one who CHIMmed it up, you know.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:53 pm

the quote in my first post belongs to Sload, so it is he who has it right :) the sword meeting stated (afair) that the technique was forbidden from use due to its destructive powers, and TR lore has it being wiped from peoples memory via CHIM. which i think is cool and therefore right.

That, and nowhere in any story did Cyrus wield an artifact called the Pankratosword. He wouldn't be a swashbuckling buccaneer if he did :nuke: and Vivec would be a [censored] for seeing it and not running away.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:08 am

the quote in my first post belongs to Sload, so it is he who has it right :) the sword meeting stated (afair) that the technique was forbidden from use due to its destructive powers, and TR lore has it being wiped from peoples memory via CHIM. which i think is cool and therefore right.

Why do they have it being wiped from memory?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:17 am

Vivec wasn't the only one who CHIMmed it up, you know.


I know.

But Vivec was part of the whole Cyrus story.

Most people think Vivec when they hear CHIM, he wrote a manual on it, you know.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:04 am

Erm, could somebody please explain what is up with this "CHIM" business? Thanks.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:12 am

It allows one of Mundus to break away from an identity with Anu and Padomay, which has resulted in their descendants repeating a fatalistic conflct, and remain safe within their own identity, able to reinvent themselves and certain, non-intrinsic properties of Mundus.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:05 pm

Erm, could somebody please explain what is up with this "CHIM" business? Thanks.

It's a state of enlightenment or cosmic awareness. Often described as the "Flea of Assertion on the Wolf of Naught."


Hard to describe, but an illustration of how CHIM works is like when Daffy Duck realized he was just an animation on an animator's desk, and used Chuck Jones' Paintbrush to do all sorts of wacky crap.
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