I am sure most of you know I don't use Wrye much at all...but, nonetheless, there are essential elements in it that I like to use to help me manage my mods...but ofcourse those are just maybe 3 things compared to the latest versions of Wrye's 600-some-odd functions that I never thought were useful or even necessary. Nonetheless, I use it, and if you didn't know, I don't use it often.

But when I do use it, I would like it to work, and in the past I have had issues with Wrye not wanting to work for me (does it have a script in it that sense when the user doesn't like it?) and ofcourse now that I decided to pop into my Oblivion file a bit, it decides not to work. I had made some changes to my mod list since the last time I played my Oblivion file, and so I had to correct things in my Bash patch, plus I kept getting a missing master crash from another mod so I wanted to check out which mod it was swiftly just checking over Wrye, but no...it won't open. It doesn't crash or anything,it just refuses to run. I haven't touched Wrye for awhile - let alone an Oblivion save game, so I don't know what could have possibly gone wrong since I wasn't really messing with any of its files at all. The only two possible conclusions I could come up with is 1)An important file to help it run was damaged. So to solve it, I just reinstalled Wrye...but no fix. The other conclusion of why it didn't want to work is that 2) I had to update Python for a different program completely unrelated to Oblivion, so maybe by updating it now my Wrye doesn't want to work? I don't see why, but oh well.

Anyone else have any ideas? There isn't like a LO for Wrye is there that I should post right?

Make sure you have the install requirements for running Wrye Bash:

• - Python 2.6.5 (http://www.python.org/download/)
  
• - Comtypes 0.6.2 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/comtypes/)
  
• - Python Imaging Library 1.1.7 (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/)
  
• - Psyco 1.6 (http://psyco.sourceforge.net/)
  
• - Python for Windows extensions (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/)
  
• - wxPython 2.8.11.0 (http://www.wxpython.org/)
  
• - Wrye Bash (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368)

Once you get everything installed correctly, run Wrye Bash with "Oblivion\Mopy\Wrye Bash Launcher.pyw".
You can create a shortcut to this file for your commodity.

Wrye Bash has many features. However, you only have to use what you want.

For checking missing masters, open mods tab and look for the color in the mod check boxes.

For information about the meaning of mod colors, and more, check "Oblivion\Mopy\Wrye Bash.html".

For ordering your mods (aka load order), use BOSS.

Well I went through a weird period of time where I had esp being eaten and lost forever after Oblivion crashes (I still suspect it was hard drive related) - anyway at the time I thought Wrye Bash was crashing but later figured out that it wasn't the case. What was happening (for other unknown reasons) was that essential esm/esp came up missing and so Wrye Bash could not load.

So I'd check to make sure the current load order attempts to match the last load order you had with Wrye Bash when using it.

Also have you updated Wrye bash since last using it? If so then revert back to the version that last worked for you (I save the archives for at least 10 versions back - they are small) and get it to open and then see about updating.

did you at some point try to open the BAIN wizard then get a crash? I had this issue with Gary bash - posted http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1079607-relz-garybash/page__view__findpost__p__15946961. Basically Bash seemed to be working until I tried using the BAIN wizard and then it crashed and would not open. Installing pywin32 fixed that.

@Ulrim...I will try reinstalling those, but I should make it known (if I didn't make this obvious enough) that it was working, just for a time life caught up with me so I didn't play Oblivion at all so that meant no messing around with anything Oblivion related on the computer, so whatever could have caused it to decide not to work is beyond me.

@Psymon: I actually don't like updating, I think I would be completely fine with one of the earliest version of Wrye. The only reason I have a moderately recent version is because I didn't have it for awhile because I like to avoid using Wrye as much as possible (we don't get a long too well as you can see). But no, I am not experiancing any .esp losses or any crashes. What happens with wrye, is that I double click to launch it, it shows me the loading symbol for about 5 seconds and then poofs...and no Wrye bash opens up. I check my tasks that are running and it doesn't even come up. And lastly; I don't use BAIN, I am much more comfortable and satisfied with the low-tech, out of date OBMM (thank goodness for that guy who just released OBMM extended). Well we'll see what happens when I reinstall those 300 things to make Wrye work.

EDIT: back @Ulrim
taking a look at all this stuff, what the hell is this? No, I never had to download any of this and Wrye worked just fine. I have heard nothing about any of these programs and so forth.

Just a curious question ... have you been here and read thoroughly? http://wryebash.netai.net/

I have been there, did not read thoroughly...I don't see why since there are about 500 links for each possible thing you can do in Wrye. I did flip through the problem section seeing if it described my problem or any similar problems that may have a similar solution, but, nope nothing there.

I am trying a Wrye Python reinstall...hopefully that will fix this...

ntom-

There is no way that bash worked without most of those things. The best packaging of all that is the Wrye Python 02 archive at http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368.

Even though many new features (mostly BAIN and tags) are implemented the later versions function much like earlier.

New versions even come with drag and drop for both esp and BAIN - all the more reason to use OBMM less.

I'm checking out http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32277 and don't see much that I can use. Hopefully though the updater will take it to levels that Fallout Mod Manager is at. FOMM is outstanding and has so many useful features: A package manger that has a meaningful conflict detector where you can choose file by file what replacer wins, to multiple file drag and drops, and more.

Avoid using bash? Why? you know unlike having other mods in that can make modding a headache you have to make a concerted effort to use bash. I only see advantages in its use I suppose.

it's more personal preference. Honestly, the old outdated OBMM seems just fine for me and does all I need it to do...ofcourse, then again I also love record players and 16mm film projectors...
Nonetheless, I suppose it's just a stain of the headache that Wrye was for me. I have atleast come to terms with using the bash patch and using Wrye for some more mundane features (in comparison to what it does now). So, I don't take it completely for granted, but I still don't use it often, and I haven't suffered any headaches! (thats a plus).

I didn't know the Wrye Python package contained those...so, well, I suppose in a sense I did download those, because the first time I got Wrye I got those too (because I knew they were needed). I just redownloaded and reinstalled those files, so maybe now Wrye will work.
EDIT:
and no...it didn't work....

Is there a Bash.ini in the mopy folder? ... not the default one.

If so then move it or rename it and try and open the program again. I think I had gary bash working fine but was missing the python add on I mentioned above. I then tried to open the BAIN wizard and it crashed bash and would not open until I deleted the ini and let it generate a new one ... and install that add on.

The older Wrye Python 01 I think does not contain all the files needed), but I thought 02 did. So go through the links Ulrim posted and make sure they are all there in package 02.

Other than that I would go to examining the wrye bash archive and re-installing Wrye Bash.

[edit] then also staying up to date I don't have the headache of getting caught up to the last 10 versions all at once.

The 275 version on TesNexus comes with an installer that will regenerate the support files, then you can drop the updates on top...