Bet you didn't see this coming (but it was obvious).

Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:25 pm

Wind Towers surround my parent's farm (not on the property, mind you, but RIGHT next door). They are ugly and are noisy. My father was telling me that a couple agriculture students (from K-state university) were around tagging prairie chickens and was concerned that the towers have disrupted their habitat (and patterns as well, not exactly sure if that was any concern). The only thing I do know is that half the time they don't work (despite Kansas being windy every damn day) and when they do the energy is sold off to Texas and Missouri. Very frustrating that tax money is used to subsidize such crap (ethanol as well, but that's another story...)
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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:57 am

We won't need it if we just build freaking Thorium reactors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium#Thorium_as_a_nuclear_fuel

Holy crap.

Are those reactors cheap to build? Why is nobody taking any notice of this?
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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:34 am

Are those reactors cheap to build? Why is nobody taking any notice of this?

Um: Sections from the Wikipedia article:
Thorium, as well as uranium and plutonium, [...] Nobel laureate Carlo Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research), has worked on developing the use of thorium as a cheap, clean and safe alternative to uranium in reactors. [...] In 1997 the U.S. Energy Department underwrote research into thorium fuel, and research was also begun in 1996 by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), to study the use of thorium reactors. Nuclear scientist, Alvin Radkowsky, of Tel Aviv University in Israel, founded a consortium to develop thorium reactors, [...]

Some countries, including India, are now investing in research to build thorium-based nuclear reactors. [...]

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Post » Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:18 am

Which planet do you live on? They periodically close certain fishing grounds off the Atlantic because the fishes have too much mercury. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_in_fish.

Read the article long before you posted the link.

Either way......coal isn't going anywhere. Its a fact. What I really love is how everyone and their mother complains about how coal is the worst thing that humanity ever discovered. But last I checked, there are very few places where coal has ruined an entire city/town (Centralia, Pa.) being one; in fact I do believe that to be the only one. Mine accidents again, are not categorized as "coal" accidents as they generally have little to do with the actual coal and more to do with mine construction and safety. That isn't to say that coal in the mines contributes to the danger but it's less so than the structures in which people work; which is why they are listed as "Coal Mining Accidents" and not "Coal Use Accidents".

But nuclear power has destroyed 13 countries (1986 Chernobyl). To date, there have been 33 civilian nuclear accidents/incidents since 1952 which also includes the two March 2011 Japan Tsunami and Earthquake accidents. First one was Chalk River in Ontario.

But getting people to realize coal isn't as dangerous as the media and government has led everyone to believe it is is not going to happen. You're all right. Coal is WAY more dangerous than nuclear power plants. :rolleyes: It all goes back to my original statement of misinformation.I don't doubt and never have that coal contributes to enviromental issues. But it isn't the grim reaper walking around murdering people as everyone believes. To date, there have been more accidents/incidents and deaths associated with nuclear power than coal.

Between the years 1980 and 2010 in the US alone there have been approximately 952 deaths related to coal mining. The operative term here is MINING. No one has ever died from burning coal. Sorry. China's mining deaths are much higher. But we aren't talking about China.

Deaths related to nuclear power are 600-1000 per year mostly to workers. Since the 1950's.

Hmm.....952 total deaths in the US from coal in a 30 year span to 600 deaths per year in a 50 year span from nuclear power; roughly 30,000 deaths for nuclear.
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