Sky turns black after a bit and crashes game

Post » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:51 am

Hoping somebody can help me out. For a while now been trying to pinpoint whats been causing this, I figure it has to have something to do with the weather. It has been atleast 25 in game days and the weather is foggy no matter when in the day. Sometimes rarely the weather changed, but the main problem I am having is after zoning into an exterior once or twice if I am lucky, the sky will turn completely pitch black whether day time or night time and then a few seconds later I crash unless I save and reload before I crash. And I notice if I happen to be in an interior during the time that I believe should be during this "black sky" time, if i attempt to zone out without a fresh load it will crash the game, even after a successful load screen.

I also notice that I can no longer save in interiors now.. only autosaves and quicksaves. I have bash and omm, bossed the load order besides 8 cosmetic/armor mods. I would like to believe it has something to do with a weather mod. I am running All Natural and storms and sounds if that helps. Anyone know what the cause is and if I can fix it. If I deactivate All Natural and Storms and sounds the game crashes when I load up my character.

Any help would be appreciated if anyone has any idea what could cause this. Thanks in advance.
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Erin S
 
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Post » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:51 pm

I'm suspecting a hardware problem, so we may end up moving this to the Hardware and Software forum, but we'll leave it here for now. Overheating, which may cause your graphics card to make errors, is a possibility. Is the interior of your computer clean (no dust, especially on the CPU cooler, graphics card, or memory)?
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Post » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:07 pm

Putting your issues with the weather aside, the mere fact you can't save your game would suggest that you've messed something up big time. I'd suggest completely removing Oblivion and reinstalling, as any other method of fixing is likely going to be longer and more complicated, and less assured of working. Also, the standard line is that autosaves and quicksaves should be disabled, as they're generally bad news for stability and such like.

As for crash-on-load with All Natural disabled, for some reason some people find that their save games are dependent on All Natural - Real Lights.esp. Since this is completely separate from the rest of the mod, you can leave this active when you disable everything else, and then if you want to get rid of it permanently, you can try again later in a different place or something. We don't know why some save games become dependent on it, so we don't know the conditions needed to remove it, but perhaps saving in a cell that's unaffected by RL may do the trick.

If I were you though, I wouldn't bother messing with All Natural until you've got the bigger problem of saving sorted out.

EDIT: On second thought, it sounds like hardware overload or something (overheating perhaps?). I know that if you're getting textures and such disappearing, then it could be Oblivion running out of memory or bugging out due to hardware faults, which would then also cause the crash. Your inability to save could be because of the same thing, so when the game is saved, it finds stuff corrupted and crashes.
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Post » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:14 pm

When Oblivion crashes, open up the task manager before forcing it to close and look at the total amount of memory it's using. What is it?

Though with the save issue, it does sound like something went completely wrong with the Oblivion install.
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Post » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:44 pm

Been messing with it. Seems to be most definately a mod conflict, with all my mods I wouldn't be surprised.

Computer was recently cleaned and have a month old graphic card. Not ruling out the possibility, but I deactivated all mods besides oblivion esm and everything is fine. I can save in interiors and the weather is normal, no black sky at all. fast travelled and waited for more than 20 days as well as zoning into interiors, saving etc. not a single crash. only crash w/o mods that I noticed was when I auto attempt to pick locks, immediately crashes. But not a problem. do not believe that happens in the modded version.

From here going to try and reactivate all and deactivate a few at a time until I find a culprit, slow but seems to be the only option if I want to keep the saves and mods. When I deactivated All Natural and storms and sounds without deactivated real lights it loaded correctly but sky was pink. As far as I know I do not have any other weather mods on here and when I deactivated all the mods weather was normal with no problems.

The saving problem is unusual, it doesnt crash when I try to save, it just doesnt save. I will go to load and the save I attempted to make minutes ago isn't there. Then tried to save and checked a second later. didnt save. If I save over a previous save that save just disappears. If I save outdoors it saves perfectly fine.

My mods are bordering the cap which may be the problem in itself. I will try deactivating half and leaving my weather mods on to see if the black sky turns up. If it doesnt then the possibility of being overload could be the problem. I have had this black sky problem for a bit though now. Before I neared cap. It is just quite annoying to have to save and reload everytime it pops up in order for it to not crash. Sometimes that doesnt even work.

As for pc performance with oblivion, it is good. I run streamline etc, only real crashes are when the black sky pops up and occasionally after a while of playing. Also went into "Adash" and I didn't notice a black sky at all and no crashes, which takes place in a different woldspace if that helps at all. The saving problem appeared very recently after updating a few mods so I will try deactivating them first to see if that fixes it. If anyone has any ideas, all help is appreciated. Going to quite typing and start testing before this turns into a novel. Thanks in advance for any response.
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