save game problem - OBSE log : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:09 pm

I have this problem just recently. When I talk to an NPC and close the menu, some times the game CTD.

The recent change in my load order was merging some mods toghether, mainly Progress esp and esm plugins and also a few other small tweaks.
The problem may not be directly related to merging progress itself or the other mods.

Here's the boring part of the OBSE.log

Spoiler

OBSE: initialize (version = 18.6 010201A0)oblivion root = E:\Games\Oblivion\plugin directory = E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\checking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll (00000001 Elys_USV 0000005D) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\EnhancedMusicControl.dllSetOpcodeBase 000024C0RegisterCommand emcGetDesiredMusicType (24C0)RegisterCommand emcGetSpecialMusicType (24C1)RegisterCommand emcCreatePlaylist (24C2)RegisterCommand emcPlaylistExists (24C3)RegisterCommand emcChangePlaylist (24C4)RegisterCommand emcRestoreDefaultPlaylist (24C5)RegisterCommand emcIsMusicSwitching (24C6)RegisterCommand emcSetRelativeMusicVolume (24C7)RegisterCommand emcGetRelativeMusicVolume (24C8)RegisterCommand emcPrintPlaylist (24C9)RegisterCommand emcRecreatePlaylist (24CA)RegisterCommand emcAddPathToPlaylist (24CB)RegisterCommand emcEnableBattleOverride (24CC)RegisterCommand emcDisableBattleOverride (24CD)RegisterCommand emcIsBattleOverridden (24CE)RegisterCommand emcIsPlaylistActive (24CF)RegisterCommand emcStartMusicHold (24D0)RegisterCommand emcEndMusicHold (24D1)RegisterCommand emcIsMusicOnHold (24D2)RegisterCommand emcPrintAvailablePlaylists (24D3)RegisterCommand emcPrintActivePlaylists (24D4)RegisterCommand emcPrintPlayingMusicFile (24D5)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\EnhancedMusicControl.dll (00000001 enhanced_music_control 00000048) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dll (00000001 FastExit 00000002) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBGEv2.dllSetOpcodeBase 00002100RegisterCommand GetAvailableGraphicsMemory (2100)RegisterCommand GetScreenWidth (2101)RegisterCommand GetScreenHeight (2102)RegisterCommand LoadShader (2103)RegisterCommand ApplyFullscreenShader (2104)RegisterCommand RemoveFullscreenShader (2105)RegisterCommand SetShaderInt (2106)RegisterCommand SetShaderFloat (2107)RegisterCommand SetShaderVector (2108)RegisterCommand SetShaderTexture (2109)RegisterCommand ForceGraphicsReset (210A)RegisterCommand LoadTexture (210B)RegisterCommand FreeTexture (210C)RegisterCommand CreateHUDElement (210D)RegisterCommand SetHUDElementTexture (210E)RegisterCommand SetHUDElementColour (210F)RegisterCommand SetHUDElementPosition (2110)RegisterCommand SetHUDElementScale (2111)RegisterCommand SetHUDElementRotation (2112)RegisterCommand PurgeManagedTextures (2113)RegisterCommand IsShaderEnabled (2114)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBGEv2.dll (00000001 OBGEv2 00000002) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OblivionEAX.dllSetOpcodeBase 000022B0RegisterCommand InitializeEAX (22B0)RegisterCommand SetEAXEnvironment (22B1)RegisterCommand SetEAXallProperties (22B2)RegisterCommand EnableEAX (22B3)RegisterCommand DisableEAX (22B4)RegisterCommand IsEAXEnabled (22B5)RegisterCommand IsEAXInitialized (22B6)RegisterCommand SetEAXEnvironmentSize (22B7)RegisterCommand SetEAXEnvironmentDiffusion (22B8)RegisterCommand SetEAXRoom (22B9)RegisterCommand SetEAXRoomHF (22BA)RegisterCommand SetEAXDecayTime (22BB)RegisterCommand SetEAXDecayHFRatio (22BC)RegisterCommand SetEAXReflections (22BD)RegisterCommand SetEAXReflectionsDelay (22BE)RegisterCommand SetEAXReverb (22BF)RegisterCommand SetEAXReverbDelay (22C0)RegisterCommand SetEAXRoomRolloffFactor (22C1)RegisterCommand SetEAXAirAbsorptionHF (22C2)RegisterCommand GetEAXEnvironment (22C3)RegisterCommand GetEAXEnvironmentSize (22C4)RegisterCommand GetEAXEnvironmentDiffusion (22C5)RegisterCommand GetEAXRoom (22C6)RegisterCommand GetEAXRoomHF (22C7)RegisterCommand GetEAXDecayTime (22C8)RegisterCommand GetEAXDecayHFRatio (22C9)RegisterCommand GetEAXReflections (22CA)RegisterCommand GetEAXReflectionsDelay (22CB)RegisterCommand GetEAXReverb (22CC)RegisterCommand GetEAXReverbDelay (22CD)RegisterCommand GetEAXRoomRolloffFactor (22CE)RegisterCommand GetEAXAirAbsorptionHF (22CF)SetOpcodeBase 00002400RegisterCommand CreateEAXeffect (2400)RegisterCommand EAXstackIsEmpty (2401)RegisterCommand EAXstackSize (2402)RegisterCommand EAXnumEffects (2403)RegisterCommand EAXgetActiveEffect (2404)RegisterCommand EAXpushEffect (2405)RegisterCommand EAXpopEffect (2406)RegisterCommand DeleteEAXeffect (2407)RegisterCommand EAXremoveFirstInstance (2408)RegisterCommand EAXremoveAllInstances (2409)RegisterCommand EAXcopyEffect (240A)RegisterCommand EAXeffectsAreEqual (240B)RegisterCommand EAXeffectExists (240C)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OblivionEAX.dll (00000001 OblivionEAX 00000007) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dllSetOpcodeBase 00002330RegisterCommand GetEsp (2330)RegisterCommand CreateArray (2331)RegisterCommand DestroyArray (2332)RegisterCommand ArraySize (2333)RegisterCommand ArrayCount (2334)RegisterCommand SetInArray (2335)RegisterCommand SetFloatInArray (2336)RegisterCommand GetInArray (2337)RegisterCommand GetTypeInArray (2338)RegisterCommand RemInArray (2339)RegisterCommand FindInArray (233A)RegisterCommand FindFloatInArray (233B)RegisterCommand SetRefInArray (233C)RegisterCommand FindRefInArray (233D)RegisterCommand CopyArray (233E)RegisterCommand ArrayEsp (233F)RegisterCommand ArrayProtect (2340)RegisterCommand FirstInArray (2341)RegisterCommand DestroyAllArrays (2342)RegisterCommand PackArray (2343)RegisterCommand CreateString (2344)RegisterCommand DestroyString (2345)RegisterCommand SetString (2346)RegisterCommand StringEsp (2347)RegisterCommand StringProtect (2348)RegisterCommand StringLen (2349)RegisterCommand DestroyAllStrings (234A)RegisterCommand StringSetName (234B)RegisterCommand StringGetName (234C)RegisterCommand StringMsg (234D)RegisterCommand StringCat (234E)RegisterCommand UserFileExists (234F)SetOpcodeBase 00002378RegisterCommand RenFile (2378)RegisterCommand DelFile (2379)RegisterCommand StringToTxtFile (237A)RegisterCommand CopyString (237B)RegisterCommand IntToString (237C)RegisterCommand FloatToString (237D)RegisterCommand RefToString (237E)RegisterCommand IniReadInt (237F)RegisterCommand IniReadFloat (2380)RegisterCommand IniReadRef (2381)RegisterCommand IniWriteInt (2382)RegisterCommand IniWriteFloat (2383)RegisterCommand IniWriteRef (2384)RegisterCommand IniKeyExists (2385)RegisterCommand IniDelKey (2386)RegisterCommand EspToString (2387)RegisterCommand IniReadString (2388)RegisterCommand IniWriteString (2389)RegisterCommand ModRefEsp (238A)RegisterCommand GetRefEsp (238B)RegisterCommand StringToRef (238C)RegisterCommand StringCmp (238D)RegisterCommand FileToString (238E)RegisterCommand StringPos (238F)RegisterCommand StringToInt (2390)RegisterCommand StringToFloat (2391)RegisterCommand ArrayCmp (2392)RegisterCommand StringMsgBox (2393)RegisterCommand StringIns (2394)RegisterCommand StringRep (2395)RegisterCommand IntToHex (2396)RegisterCommand LC (2397)SetOpcodeBase 000023B0RegisterCommand FromTSFC (23B0)RegisterCommand ToTSFC (23B1)RegisterCommand StrLC (23B2)RegisterCommand CreateEspBook (23B3)RegisterCommand FmtString (23B4)RegisterCommand FixName (23B5)RegisterCommand ResetName (23B6)RegisterCommand HasFixedName (23B7)RegisterCommand csc (23B8)RegisterCommand StringSetNameEx (23B9)RegisterCommand StringGetNameEx (23BA)RegisterCommand FixNameEx (23BB)RegisterCommand IniGetNthSection (23BC)RegisterCommand IniSectionsCount (23BD)RegisterCommand RunBatString (23BE)RegisterCommand Halt (23BF)RegisterCommand RefToLong (23C0)RegisterCommand LongToRef (23C1)RegisterCommand FindFirstFile (23C2)RegisterCommand FindNextFile (23C3)RegisterCommand GetFileSize (23C4)RegisterCommand NewHudS (23C5)RegisterCommand DelHudS (23C6)RegisterCommand ScreenInfo (23C7)RegisterCommand HudS_X (23C8)RegisterCommand HudS_SclX (23C9)RegisterCommand HudS_Show (23CA)RegisterCommand HudS_Opac (23CB)RegisterCommand HudS_Align (23CC)RegisterCommand AutoSclHudS (23CD)RegisterCommand HudS_Y (23CE)RegisterCommand HudSEsp (23CF)RegisterCommand HudSProtect (23D0)RegisterCommand HudsInfo (23D1)RegisterCommand DelAllHudSs (23D2)RegisterCommand HudS_L (23D3)RegisterCommand rcsc (23D4)RegisterCommand HudS_SclY (23D5)RegisterCommand NewHudT (23D6)RegisterCommand DelHudT (23D7)RegisterCommand HudT_X (23D8)RegisterCommand HudT_SclX (23D9)RegisterCommand HudT_Show (23DA)RegisterCommand HudT_Opac (23DB)RegisterCommand HudT_Align (23DC)RegisterCommand AutoSclHudT (23DD)RegisterCommand HudT_Y (23DE)RegisterCommand HudTEsp (23DF)RegisterCommand HudTProtect (23E0)RegisterCommand HudTInfo (23E1)RegisterCommand DelAllHudTs (23E2)RegisterCommand HudT_L (23E3)RegisterCommand HudT_SclY (23E4)RegisterCommand PauseBox (23E5)RegisterCommand KillMenu (23E6)RegisterCommand SetHudT (23E7)RegisterCommand HudT_Text (23E8)RegisterCommand HudS_Tex (23E9)RegisterCommand SanString (23EA)RegisterCommand IsHUDEnabled (23EB)RegisterCommand IsPluggyDataReset (23EC)RegisterCommand FromOBSEString (23ED)RegisterCommand ToOBSEString (23EE)RegisterCommand HudT_Font (23EF)SetOpcodeBase 000023FFRegisterCommand PlgySpcl (23FF)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy 00000084) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Uncapper 0000005E) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dllSetOpcodeBase 000025D0RegisterCommand mqSetMessageBoxSource (25D0)RegisterCommand mqGetSelectedClass (25D1)RegisterCommand mqGetHighlightedClass (25D2)RegisterCommand mqAlterCustomClass (25D3)RegisterCommand mqGetEnchMenuBaseItem (25D4)RegisterCommand mqGetMapMarkers (25D5)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildFloatValue (25D6)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildStringValue (25D7)RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildFloatValue (25D8)RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildStringValue (25D9)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildHasTrait (25DA)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildName (25DB)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildCount (25DC)RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuFloatValue (25DD)RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuStringValue (25DE)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveFloatValue (25DF)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveStringValue (25E0)RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveFloatValue (25E1)RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveStringValue (25E2)RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveChildIndex (25E3)RegisterCommand mqInsertXML (25E4)SetOpcodeBase 000025E5RegisterCommand mqGetCurrentQuests (25E5)RegisterCommand mqGetCompletedQuests (25E6)RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuest (25E7)RegisterCommand mqSetActiveQuest (25E8)RegisterCommand mqGetQuestCompleted (25E9)RegisterCommand mqUncompleteQuest (25EA)SetOpcodeBase 000025EFRegisterCommand Kyoma_Test (25EF)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll (00000001 OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue 00000002) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\SoundCommands.dllSetOpcodeBase 00002398RegisterCommand SetMusicVolume (2398)RegisterCommand SetMasterVolume (2399)RegisterCommand SetEffectsVolume (239A)RegisterCommand SetFootVolume (239B)RegisterCommand SetVoiceVolume (239C)RegisterCommand FadeMusic (239D)RegisterCommand GetMusicVolume (239E)RegisterCommand PlayMusicFile (239F)RegisterCommand GetEffectsVolume (23A0)RegisterCommand GetFootVolume (23A1)RegisterCommand GetVoiceVolume (23A2)RegisterCommand GetMasterVolume (23A3)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\SoundCommands.dll (00000001 SoundCommands 00000004) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll (00000001 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover 00004100) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\TSFC_1_2_0_416.dllSetOpcodeBase 00002200RegisterCommand StrNew (2200)RegisterCommand StrDel (2201)RegisterCommand StrSet (2202)RegisterCommand StrCopy (2203)RegisterCommand StrPrint (2204)RegisterCommand StrCompare (2205)RegisterCommand StrSetName (2206)RegisterCommand StrGetName (2207)RegisterCommand StrGetModelPath (2208)RegisterCommand StrGetModelPath (2209)RegisterCommand StrGetMaleBipedPath (220A)RegisterCommand StrGetFemaleBipedPath (220B)RegisterCommand StrGetModelPath (220C)RegisterCommand StrGetFemaleGroundPath (220D)RegisterCommand StrGetMaleIconPath (220E)RegisterCommand StrGetFemaleIconPath (220F)RegisterCommand StrSetModelPath (2210)RegisterCommand StrSetModelPath (2211)RegisterCommand StrSetMaleBipedPath (2212)RegisterCommand StrSetFemaleBipedPath (2213)RegisterCommand StrSetModelPath (2214)RegisterCommand StrSetFemaleGroundPath (2215)RegisterCommand StrSetMaleIconPath (2216)RegisterCommand StrSetFemaleIconPath (2217)RegisterCommand StrReplace (2218)RegisterCommand StrIDReplace (2219)RegisterCommand StrCat (221A)RegisterCommand StrExpr (221B)RegisterCommand StrAppend (221C)RegisterCommand StrSetNthEffectItemScriptName (221D)RegisterCommand StrGetNthEffectItemScriptName (221E)RegisterCommand StrSave (221F)RegisterCommand StrLoad (2220)RegisterCommand StrLength (2221)RegisterCommand StrMessageBox (2222)RegisterCommand StrClear (2223)RegisterCommand StrClearLast (2224)RegisterCommand StrDeleteAll (2225)RegisterCommand StrAppendCharCode (2226)RegisterCommand StrGetRandomName (2227)RegisterCommand StrGetNthFactionRankName (2228)RegisterCommand StrAddNewLine (2229)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\TSFC_1_2_0_416.dll (00000001 Tibixes_String_Function_Collection 00000001) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\weOCPS.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\weOCPS.dll (00000001 weOCPS 01328DD8) loaded correctlypatched

And here's the nice part:

DoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 116 - Nohraar - Chorrol, Level 70, Playing Time 808.57.14.essloading from C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 116 - Nohraar - Chorrol, Level 70, Playing Time 808.57.14.obseLoading stringsplugin didn't finish reading chunkLoading array variablesplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin didn't finish reading chunkplugin did not read all of its data (at 000000000001C214 expected 000000000001C215)DoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 118 - Nohraar - Chorrol, Level 70, Playing Time 809.00.38.esssaving to C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 118 - Nohraar - Chorrol, Level 70, Playing Time 809.00.38.obseDoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 119 - Nohraar - Chorrol, Level 70, Playing Time 809.01.04.esssaving to C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 119 - Nohraar - Chorrol, Level 70, Playing Time 809.01.04.obse

What does this mean?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:14 pm

What does this mean?

It means one or more of your OBSE plugin .dll's decided not to bother to finish reading some of the info it had stored in the co-save (.obse) file. It is not an error and has no effect on game stability.

CTD is likely due to mod merging or load order issues; the contents of OBSE.log would almost certainly be the same with or without CTD.

I'd suggest posting the details of your recent changes to your mod list, though if you have an exception module/offset for the CTD I can take a quick look to try to narrow it down.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:51 pm

I have this problem just recently. When I talk to an NPC and close the menu, some times the game CTD.

This is probably something you already looked at, but just in case...

There is a setting in EnhancedEconomy's ini that has to do with how conversations are ended. The default setting is known to cause CTDs on some builds (mine included). Changing it might fix the problem. Sorry I can't remember the details right now, but it's pretty well covered in theNiceOne's readme and in the ini.

Hope that helps,
veg

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:29 pm

Thanks veg

; EE has two ways to set up variable dialogue text.; Some players encounter CTD when starting/ending dialogues with the "standard" way, ; So by default, the alternate way is used, even though it add one superfluous space in the dialogue. ; You may try 0 (I use it), but if you get CTD when entering/exiting dialgues, use 1.set tnoEE.alt_gameSetting to 0

I'll change it back to 1

@scruggsy
That helps narrow the problem, thanks!

I have merged the progress esp and esm plugins. Other small mods that I also merged in a separate esp were rainbows, natural environments, AWLS's window lightning plugin, Phitt's small fixes plugins, also KO punch, fizzle, and other small ones from tejón.
Well, I have them disabled right now as well as the merged plugins.

I'm trying to catch the error (or cause a CTD so it spills out the ninja'd malfunction) by disabling the .dll obse plugins one by one.

Haven't found anything conclusive yet

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:56 am

Spoiler

OBSE: initialize (version = 18.6 010201A0)oblivion root = E:\Games\Oblivion\plugin directory = E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\checking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll (00000001 Elys_USV 0000005D) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\FastExit2.dll (00000001 FastExit 00000002) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dllSetOpcodeBase 00002330RegisterCommand GetEsp (2330)RegisterCommand CreateArray (2331)RegisterCommand DestroyArray (2332)RegisterCommand ArraySize (2333)RegisterCommand ArrayCount (2334)RegisterCommand SetInArray (2335)RegisterCommand SetFloatInArray (2336)RegisterCommand GetInArray (2337)RegisterCommand GetTypeInArray (2338)RegisterCommand RemInArray (2339)RegisterCommand FindInArray (233A)RegisterCommand FindFloatInArray (233B)RegisterCommand SetRefInArray (233C)RegisterCommand FindRefInArray (233D)RegisterCommand CopyArray (233E)RegisterCommand ArrayEsp (233F)RegisterCommand ArrayProtect (2340)RegisterCommand FirstInArray (2341)RegisterCommand DestroyAllArrays (2342)RegisterCommand PackArray (2343)RegisterCommand CreateString (2344)RegisterCommand DestroyString (2345)RegisterCommand SetString (2346)RegisterCommand StringEsp (2347)RegisterCommand StringProtect (2348)RegisterCommand StringLen (2349)RegisterCommand DestroyAllStrings (234A)RegisterCommand StringSetName (234B)RegisterCommand StringGetName (234C)RegisterCommand StringMsg (234D)RegisterCommand StringCat (234E)RegisterCommand UserFileExists (234F)SetOpcodeBase 00002378RegisterCommand RenFile (2378)RegisterCommand DelFile (2379)RegisterCommand StringToTxtFile (237A)RegisterCommand CopyString (237B)RegisterCommand IntToString (237C)RegisterCommand FloatToString (237D)RegisterCommand RefToString (237E)RegisterCommand IniReadInt (237F)RegisterCommand IniReadFloat (2380)RegisterCommand IniReadRef (2381)RegisterCommand IniWriteInt (2382)RegisterCommand IniWriteFloat (2383)RegisterCommand IniWriteRef (2384)RegisterCommand IniKeyExists (2385)RegisterCommand IniDelKey (2386)RegisterCommand EspToString (2387)RegisterCommand IniReadString (2388)RegisterCommand IniWriteString (2389)RegisterCommand ModRefEsp (238A)RegisterCommand GetRefEsp (238B)RegisterCommand StringToRef (238C)RegisterCommand StringCmp (238D)RegisterCommand FileToString (238E)RegisterCommand StringPos (238F)RegisterCommand StringToInt (2390)RegisterCommand StringToFloat (2391)RegisterCommand ArrayCmp (2392)RegisterCommand StringMsgBox (2393)RegisterCommand StringIns (2394)RegisterCommand StringRep (2395)RegisterCommand IntToHex (2396)RegisterCommand LC (2397)SetOpcodeBase 000023B0RegisterCommand FromTSFC (23B0)RegisterCommand ToTSFC (23B1)RegisterCommand StrLC (23B2)RegisterCommand CreateEspBook (23B3)RegisterCommand FmtString (23B4)RegisterCommand FixName (23B5)RegisterCommand ResetName (23B6)RegisterCommand HasFixedName (23B7)RegisterCommand csc (23B8)RegisterCommand StringSetNameEx (23B9)RegisterCommand StringGetNameEx (23BA)RegisterCommand FixNameEx (23BB)RegisterCommand IniGetNthSection (23BC)RegisterCommand IniSectionsCount (23BD)RegisterCommand RunBatString (23BE)RegisterCommand Halt (23BF)RegisterCommand RefToLong (23C0)RegisterCommand LongToRef (23C1)RegisterCommand FindFirstFile (23C2)RegisterCommand FindNextFile (23C3)RegisterCommand GetFileSize (23C4)RegisterCommand NewHudS (23C5)RegisterCommand DelHudS (23C6)RegisterCommand ScreenInfo (23C7)RegisterCommand HudS_X (23C8)RegisterCommand HudS_SclX (23C9)RegisterCommand HudS_Show (23CA)RegisterCommand HudS_Opac (23CB)RegisterCommand HudS_Align (23CC)RegisterCommand AutoSclHudS (23CD)RegisterCommand HudS_Y (23CE)RegisterCommand HudSEsp (23CF)RegisterCommand HudSProtect (23D0)RegisterCommand HudsInfo (23D1)RegisterCommand DelAllHudSs (23D2)RegisterCommand HudS_L (23D3)RegisterCommand rcsc (23D4)RegisterCommand HudS_SclY (23D5)RegisterCommand NewHudT (23D6)RegisterCommand DelHudT (23D7)RegisterCommand HudT_X (23D8)RegisterCommand HudT_SclX (23D9)RegisterCommand HudT_Show (23DA)RegisterCommand HudT_Opac (23DB)RegisterCommand HudT_Align (23DC)RegisterCommand AutoSclHudT (23DD)RegisterCommand HudT_Y (23DE)RegisterCommand HudTEsp (23DF)RegisterCommand HudTProtect (23E0)RegisterCommand HudTInfo (23E1)RegisterCommand DelAllHudTs (23E2)RegisterCommand HudT_L (23E3)RegisterCommand HudT_SclY (23E4)RegisterCommand PauseBox (23E5)RegisterCommand KillMenu (23E6)RegisterCommand SetHudT (23E7)RegisterCommand HudT_Text (23E8)RegisterCommand HudS_Tex (23E9)RegisterCommand SanString (23EA)RegisterCommand IsHUDEnabled (23EB)RegisterCommand IsPluggyDataReset (23EC)RegisterCommand FromOBSEString (23ED)RegisterCommand ToOBSEString (23EE)RegisterCommand HudT_Font (23EF)SetOpcodeBase 000023FFRegisterCommand PlgySpcl (23FF)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy 00000084) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Uncapper 0000005E) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll (00000001 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover 00004100) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\TSFC_1_2_0_416.dllSetOpcodeBase 00002200RegisterCommand StrNew (2200)RegisterCommand StrDel (2201)RegisterCommand StrSet (2202)RegisterCommand StrCopy (2203)RegisterCommand StrPrint (2204)RegisterCommand StrCompare (2205)RegisterCommand StrSetName (2206)RegisterCommand StrGetName (2207)RegisterCommand StrGetModelPath (2208)RegisterCommand StrGetModelPath (2209)RegisterCommand StrGetMaleBipedPath (220A)RegisterCommand StrGetFemaleBipedPath (220B)RegisterCommand StrGetModelPath (220C)RegisterCommand StrGetFemaleGroundPath (220D)RegisterCommand StrGetMaleIconPath (220E)RegisterCommand StrGetFemaleIconPath (220F)RegisterCommand StrSetModelPath (2210)RegisterCommand StrSetModelPath (2211)RegisterCommand StrSetMaleBipedPath (2212)RegisterCommand StrSetFemaleBipedPath (2213)RegisterCommand StrSetModelPath (2214)RegisterCommand StrSetFemaleGroundPath (2215)RegisterCommand StrSetMaleIconPath (2216)RegisterCommand StrSetFemaleIconPath (2217)RegisterCommand StrReplace (2218)RegisterCommand StrIDReplace (2219)RegisterCommand StrCat (221A)RegisterCommand StrExpr (221B)RegisterCommand StrAppend (221C)RegisterCommand StrSetNthEffectItemScriptName (221D)RegisterCommand StrGetNthEffectItemScriptName (221E)RegisterCommand StrSave (221F)RegisterCommand StrLoad (2220)RegisterCommand StrLength (2221)RegisterCommand StrMessageBox (2222)RegisterCommand StrClear (2223)RegisterCommand StrClearLast (2224)RegisterCommand StrDeleteAll (2225)RegisterCommand StrAppendCharCode (2226)RegisterCommand StrGetRandomName (2227)RegisterCommand StrGetNthFactionRankName (2228)RegisterCommand StrAddNewLine (2229)plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\TSFC_1_2_0_416.dll (00000001 Tibixes_String_Function_Collection 00000001) loaded correctlychecking plugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\weOCPS.dllplugin E:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\weOCPS.dll (00000001 weOCPS 01328DD8) loaded correctly

patchedDoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 117 - Nohraar - The Grey Mare, Level 70, Playing Time 809.05.57.essloading from C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 117 - Nohraar - The Grey Mare, Level 70, Playing Time 809.05.57.obseLoading stringsLoading array variablesdata in save file for plugin, but plugin isn't loadedDoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 118 - Nohraar - The Grey Mare, Level 70, Playing Time 809.08.45.esssaving to C:\Users\Me\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Nohraar\Save 118 - Nohraar - The Grey Mare, Level 70, Playing Time 809.08.45.obse

~~Is it possible to get any kind of reference as to what plugin that might be?~~

Edit:
Well, I disabled a lot of plugins, disabled bashed patch, went into the game, made a new save, removed bloat with WB, loaded the game, saved again.

Now it's gone. :facepalm:

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:01 am

Have you tried going to the Wrye Bash saves tab, right clicking on it, then selecting "obse statistics" ? You might be able to tell from that where the problem is coming from. Maybe it'll tell you what's missing.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:33 am

That's nice. I'm just glad I did it brute force way. That is really a long list of records!

I'll try to enable the few plugins I've disabled to see if it happens again.

I took out MenuQue, OBGE.dll (the new version recompiled by ShadeMe, found on the OBGE thread), Sound commands and Enhanced Music & Control

The latter two were the last to be taken out.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:59 am

I took out MenuQue, OBGE.dll (the new version recompiled by ShadeMe, found on the OBGE thread), Sound commands and Enhanced Music & Control

Just as a point of reference, I use all of those except MenuQue, with full FCOM and a (large) bunch of other stuff, and I don't get CTDs at all, even after many hours of continuous play.

Suggests to me it could be MenuQue, or alternatively, something else not even listed there.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:31 pm

OBGE was reported to skip a few bytes while reading its data from the co-save, but I was under the impression that scanti had it fixed. I'll take a look when I can.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:55 am

I've confirmed it. OBGE dll was causing this.

On a clean game, enabling gives "plugin did not read all of its data (...)".

After disabling it gives "data in save file for plugin, but plugin isn't loaded".

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:02 am

I've confirmed it. OBGE dll was causing this.

On a clean game, enabling gives "plugin did not read all of its data (...)".

After disabling it gives "data in save file for plugin, but plugin isn't loaded".

In case it wasn't clear: OBGE was responsible for the log text, but had nothing to do with your CTD. Did vegtabill's suggestion fix the CTD?

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:40 am

I'm sorry, I was tired when I posted.

OBGE was causing the log.

The dialog CTD was caused by the Enhanced Economy setting:

set tnoEE.alt_gameSetting to 0

Setting it to 1 fixed my CTD's.

Thank you for your support!

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:15 am

I've fixed the issue with OBGE. Will post a link later, in its thread.