Man sues police

Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:49 pm

If by human society you mean mainly the US?

No, not just the US. You may not be aware of it, but since the appearance of mass media the entire world has continuously been getting more sensationalistic.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:00 pm

What's with all the melodramatic misanthropy every time threads like this come up? Get a grip, this is one case that - actually - isn't even that ridiculous. It's not damning criticism of the species...

news article: Humanity makes itself to immune disease!

Forum: Just when I thought my faith in humanity couldn't get any lower, they do something even worse.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:54 am

No, not just the US. You may not be aware of it, but since the appearance of mass media the entire world has continuously been getting more sensationalistic.

This rush to sensationalist media isn't happening here.

OTOH, because of the internet, it's easy to find for someone who wants to go out and find it, which is likely what happened in this case. In the US, it's as easy as turning on your TV and it's everywhere. Not the case here.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:17 pm

This rush to sensationalist media isn't happening here.

Doubtful.

I'm pretty sure society in Canada was a lot less sensationalistic 100 or even 50 years ago than it is today. I believe it is true that society in Canada may be significantly less sensationalistic than e.g. society in USA, but that doesn't mean that its... "sensationalisticness" hasn't been increasing for the past century.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:22 pm

That reminds me to go look for some deep fried dog.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:53 am

Doubtful.

I'm pretty sure society in Canada was a lot less sensationalistic 100 or even 50 years ago than it is today. I believe it is true that society in Canada may be significantly less sensationalistic than e.g. society in USA, but that doesn't mean that its... "sensationalisticness" hasn't been increasing for the past century.

Nope, not doubtful. Sensationalism exists everywhere obviously, if that's what you're suggesting. If the implication is here it's increasingly sensationalist, there's no basis to back up that blanket statement, and it's false.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:20 pm

Nope, not doubtful. Sensationalism exists everywhere obviously, if that's what you're suggesting. If the implication is here it's increasingly sensationalist, there's no basis to back up that blanket statement, and it's false.

I could probably dig up some very sensationalistic reports from Canadian media and link it up here if I wasn't so lazy. Would that be basis enough for you if I did that? Or can we just agree so I don't have to bother with googling and linking which will inevitably prove my point anyway?
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:35 pm

I could probably dig up some very sensationalistic reports from Canadian media and link it up here if I wasn't so lazy. Would that be basis enough for you if I did that? Or can we just agree so I don't have to bother with googling and linking which will inevitably prove my point anyway?

I could dig up a link describing Canadians as Eskimo-like people who live in igloos but doesn't give it validity. Being that I watch TV here I'm familiarized with what our media talks about and spends time reporting on. The fact that you would need to try and do a search to back up this statement tells me all I need to know.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:22 pm

I could dig up a link describing Canadians as Eskimo-like people who live in igloos but doesn't give it validity.

I'm not talking about whether the media reports would be valid or not, I'm talking about whether they'd be sensationalistic or not. If I dig up a sensationalistic report by Canadian media my point wouldn't be what the media report says, my point would be that the report is sensationalistic. If I find sensationalistic reports by Canadian media that proves that Canadian media is sensationalistic, not that whatever the report said is true.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:32 am

The only damning evidence against humanity that I see here is police refusing a diabetic insulin when he needs it.

He's claiming that they refused him insulin. I am a diabetic, and blood sugar is easily checked with a glucose meter at the infirmary. If it were found to be hyperglycemic, he could have recieved insulin in the prison infirmary.
I have never gone into a diabetic convulsion when my blood sugar was too high.
In fact, I have gotten sleepy staggering silly, like a drunkard. I have only gone into diabetic convulsions when my blood sugar was hypoglycemic, or TOO LOW. You don't need insulin when your blood sugar is low enough to cause convulsions. You need glucose. .
So in my humble opinion, the burglar who isn't above biting dogs isn't above lying either. In short, I think he's full of [censored].
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:15 pm

I'm not talking about whether the media reports would be valid or not, I'm talking about whether they'd be sensationalistic or not. If I dig up a sensationalistic report by Canadian media my point wouldn't be what the media report says, my point would be that the report is sensationalistic. If I find sensationalistic reports by Canadian media that proves that Canadian media is sensationalistic, not that whatever the report said is true.

I agree that the world* is becoming more sensationalist. One example that I can name off the top of my head is pop music. It is obvious that pop(ular) music has become more sensationalist in the past 100 years.

*The world being all first world countries.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:03 pm

What's with all the melodramatic misanthropy every time threads like this come up? Get a grip, this is one case that - actually - isn't even that ridiculous. It's not damning criticism of the species...


I'm just going to QFT this, why does everyone have to have such a negative view on humanity? The world isn't perfect, and the sooner you get out of your gloomy views, the happier you will be.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:59 pm

He's claiming that they refused him insulin. I am a diabetic, and blood sugar is easily checked with a glucose meter at the infirmary. If it were found to be hyperglycemic, he could have recieved insulin in the prison infirmary.
I have never gone into a diabetic convulsion when my blood sugar was too high.
In fact, I have gotten sleepy staggering silly, like a drunkard. I have only gone into diabetic convulsions when my blood sugar was hypoglycemic, or TOO LOW. You don't need insulin when your blood sugar is low enough to cause convulsions. You need glucose. .
So in my humble opinion, the burglar who isn't above biting dogs isn't above lying either. In short, I think he's full of [censored].


But going too high can be dangerous. My sister is diabetic, and when she was very young and recently diagnosed (about 8) we accidentally sent her hyper (when we realised she was hypo), as opposed to hypo - it was not pretty at all. Surely if you're hyper, insulin would take you down and effectively make you a bit better? I don't know the situation here at all, but I know how scary it can get when you don't know what you're doing. Maybe that was the case here. Or maybe he didn't have a blood test kit on him, or they wouldn't allow him to do a blood test because they thought he was lying. Or a number of other reasons. All I'm saying is there's not enough evidence to rule it out either way.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:09 pm

I've heard even worse things happening than this article.

There will always be stupid and obnoxious people in the human race. Only one I feel bad for is the dog.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:07 pm

if he wins... I am going to be very very disappointed....
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:21 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef1znNdZA1k

but that dog thing is pretty crazy.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:58 pm

But going too high can be dangerous. My sister is diabetic, and when she was very young and recently diagnosed (about 8) we accidentally sent her hyper (when we realised she was hypo), as opposed to hypo - it was not pretty at all. Surely if you're hyper, insulin would take you down and effectively make you a bit better? I don't know the situation here at all, but I know how scary it can get when you don't know what you're doing. Maybe that was the case here. Or maybe he didn't have a blood test kit on him, or they wouldn't allow him to do a blood test because they thought he was lying. Or a number of other reasons. All I'm saying is there's not enough evidence to rule it out either way.

You can give a diabetic too much insulin, and it will cause hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia equals low blood sugar. Hyperglycemia is high blood sugar. Everytime I have overdoped on glucose, it did not cause convulsions, it caused drunken, feeble behavior. In fact, one can resemble an intoxicated person so well that I was educated to inform any law enforcement officer of my diabetes. High blood sugar can cause one to give a false postive on a breathalyzer test. High blood sugar dosen't cause convulsions.
NOT giving a diabetic insulin doesn't cause convulsions. It can cause you to fall out, though.
As for a glucose meter and sharps, teh kit itself shouldn't be where prisoners can easily access it.
If he were worried about his diabetes, then he shouldn't have robbed a house and bitten a police dog. Then he wouldn't have landed in jail. I feel no pity for this guy.
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Post » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:30 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef1znNdZA1k


I don't understand....
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:01 pm

Just a few thoughts on the conversation...in the form of a catchy tune.
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Post » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:45 pm

You can give a diabetic too much insulin, and it will cause hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia equals low blood sugar. Hyperglycemia is high blood sugar. Everytime I have overdoped on glucose, it did not cause convulsions, it caused drunken, feeble behavior. In fact, one can resemble an intoxicated person so well that I was educated to inform any law enforcement officer of my diabetes. High blood sugar can cause one to give a false postive on a breathalyzer test. High blood sugar dosen't cause convulsions.
NOT giving a diabetic insulin doesn't cause convulsions. It can cause you to fall out, though.
As for a glucose meter and sharps, teh kit itself shouldn't be where prisoners can easily access it.
If he were worried about his diabetes, then he shouldn't have robbed a house and bitten a police dog. Then he wouldn't have landed in jail. I feel no pity for this guy.

correct, high blood sugar takes a long time to effect someone. if it could actually make someone have a seizure to miss out on insulin for one day then countless undiagnosed diabetics would be in the hospital getting all kinds of tests to find out they're diabetic... if he suffered from his diabetes in that jail cell it would be from low blood sugar, and in that case insulin would have likely killed him
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