So I keep 2~3 saves.

My first save (oldest) was in the hoover dam after saving the president, but before talking to the NCR woman about it. So I didn't trigger the new quest yet. Saved here thinking if I wanted to back and do anything before Eureka, here's a good place.

Second save is after starting the quest... Anything bugs, or freezes up, I can return to this.

Third save... AT THE ****ING LOCKED DOORS!


Going back to my first save does not help. The doors are still locked because of the quest I had just finished.
I have waited weeks now for this patch which does not fix the problem.
I am done with this BS, and I will be looking to contact amazon.com about a refund for defective software, or at the very least sell it on ebay or something to get some of my money back. 87 hours of gaming, right at the end, and I can't even finish it. Real smooth.

Hopefully other people frustrated with this poor excuse for a game and a patch will do the same thing and just not buy games from you all anymroe.
See how well you sell games when people don't want to buy them because previous experience with you shows poor development and future support.

Man, that really stinks. Sorry to hear you can finish up your playthrough man. Hopefully you can get some dollars back for it!

Going to use the trade in program with Amazon.com. $34.50 trade in. Which is about what I paid for it actually through amazon.com.

svcks, I was looking forward to this game being patched so I could finally finish the main story then go and finish other side quests. I was also excited about the new Elder Scrolls game, but I will not buy it seeing as how New Vegas is broken (despite it wasn't Bethesda that developed it), and Bethesda not only took forever to make and release a patch, but the patch doesn't even resolve what should be a simple thing. Too bad I can't just access console controls. I wouldn't have this to complain about it.

Already had broken trust due to Oblivion on the PS3, seeing as GOTY edition was never properly supported. I ran into several quest glitches that required me to go buy the original version of the game to resolve my problems. I had little issue with Fallout 3, but New Vegas has been hell. Constant game freezes, quest glitches, a map glitch that prevented me from continuing, and now this game breaker right before the end. I had thought Fable III was a broken game, but this... this game... It's way beyond broken in my 87+ (probably more like 100 hours) experience.

Bethesda said that people might need to start a new game in order for their problems to get fixed, and obviously you have not even attempted this, so I feel no pity for you and hope you only get like 10 bucks back for the game since your whining is unfounded.

They did say that some problems may require an earlier save before the bug occured in order for the fix to take effect. Sometimes the patch can only fix the cause of the problem, it can't always fix something thats already happened. And it sounds like the bug triggered after you completed that quest.


Plus this is why it's recommened to have multiple save files with Bethesda games. Basically don't rely on autosaves and quicksaves, and make a manual save after important milestones -ie: Finishing a quest, reaching a new town, levelling up, etc. Relying on such a small number of saves meant that a problem like this was inevitable I'm afraid.



Thats a bit harsh and unneccesary.

Perhaps I was a bit harsh, but then again, his [censored] was unnessary too, and so is telling everyone that the patch is garbage when he hasn't even tried something that was recommended.

Yeah, because I so totally want to spend 90 hours doing something I already did. With an attitude like yours, I assume you're one of those so called kids that live in their parents basemant I constantly hear about. Sorry if THAT seems harsh, just calling it like I see it. If I was only a few hours into it, I'd agree with your point, but 90 hours is not "meh, I'll just do it over, no big deal"

Touche my good sir touche, but no I don't live at home, I just don't understand why people are complaining about the patch not working when they are not following the advice of the people who made it, yes 90 hours is alot of time, but do you have a particular time limit in which you have to beat it, are you going to be dead in another year and so you must beat as many games as fast as you can and therefore have no time to restart?

Look, I totally understand that if you downloaded the patch you may see some of the bugs still present in the game, but, common sense? Restart the game. Screw all of your game saves. The best way for this patch to actually take it's full effect IMO is to restart the game from scratch. Everyone feels that the patch should fix everything while they are mid way through the game and put 20+ hours into it. Whatever. Restart the game from the beginning and if it doesn't work then im sorry to hear that. Others apparently will have more problems than others. I'm going to download the patch, restart the game from scratch and if I have any saves that I've used prior to this patch I am going to delete. I don't mind starting over.

I completely agree with this statement. This is now the fifth time, including Bethesda as mentioned above from this person's post that someone has said to start the game over. Start the game over. End of story. There is no point in continuing with your saved games when you have already encountered bugs, glitches, freezes etc. The patch will not take it's full effect.

To be honest most of the kids/manchildren that I know take more of the attitude of "bah NO! dude I made thats suppose to be 'me' or dreamgirl broke and I can't play him/her I hate you *insert company*". Now that I think about it, our attitudes to our game I feel is how we want to enjoy them.
Some people in here I feel take game as a recreation or hobby, so to them loosing a lot of time to replay games they enjoy they can brush past and keep playing because they just see the game as down time, like knitting or figure painting.
Others here I feel take this as the escapist.
Others still as a sport or challenge.

No matter what: The passion this game builds in people tells me people find this game great and addictive. Really if this was just a bad game that svck and bugged people would have drop off by now. But we stay and get angry like first time lovers in a fight because we know how great it can be.

Also I like to add if you had the time to plunk NINETY hours in how can you not do it again?
Im not trying to anger you I'm am just honestly unable to proses what would make it doable one week/month and not return to it. Is it you don't play threw games a second time?

heh, no worries! Nothing you said was uncivil

Yeah, the list of games I have played through more than once is a very short list, having been playing since the days of Atari, before Nintendo took their first breath.
A list that's rather short. Prior to LIVE! achievements, a list that's less than 10 games long. Gamerscore being a sort of incentive to play again in some cases, the number of games has grown.

While yes, I did find 90 hours to push into Fallout 3, it stripped me of time playing games with my friends, which I much prefer. The fact I already know the story, and the path I was following is no fun for me to do it all again... At least in the case of something so time consuming. If we were talking about 20 hours total, I wouldn't be complaining seeing as how i violated the first Mass Effect countless times, and ended up doing it all over again because of a corrupted save issue I ran into just before ME2 was released. 20 hours vs 90 hours though is huge for a playthrough. At least to me it is.

Sure, I could find the time, but the enjoyment of the first time is the story, exploring, etc. The first time around, it's all new. The reason I have no desire for a second run is because to me it's a "been there, done that." Only things I really get into or enjoy do I not have that attitude with.

I'm the kind of person who feels that because I visited Washington DC for a week on a school trip back in 1994, I have no need to ever go back. Since I was a kid, I never enjoyed doing much a second time. Hmm, I did end up going back though in summer of 09 to take my kids there for a day, since they had never been there. They had fun, but have no desire to go back any time soon!

I mention DC because of Fallout 3, which I actually bought just a few months after being there again. At the midnight launch of Halo ODST, a couple of teenagers introduced me to Fallout 3. Between my visit to DC, and seeing VATS, I was sold. Picked up GOTY edition 2 months later when I saw it on sale for $30. Played through some of the DLC, the main story, put it away. Happens to most games I play, if I finish them at all. What I enjoyed the most was exploring the fictional wasteland of the DC area. Something where New Vegas imo fell short btw.



Admittedly, I do have a backup that goes further back than previously stated. One I forgot about in the mess of all errors started running into near the end. Actually until I started getting into the endgame portion of New Vegas, the only issue I had was constant freezing. Every 30 minutes to the hour I had to reset my xbox. Once I hit endgame I Started running into serious problems, and the ocassional graphical mishap (um, arms above my head holding my rifle O.o; and weapons behind holstered backwards lol FAIL!). A save I had made so I could go back and run down the alternate paths for their achievements. It's about 30 hour off, just after entering the strip actually... 60 hours to get to the strip... >.> And there is alot I never did outside the strip. Having remembered this backup save I made on my memory card, I could indeed load that up. Leaving me with about 30 hours to redo alot of crap (Brotherhood, companions, vaults, etc)... Or say screw finishing the path I wanted to follow, and finish with Legion (ugh, which I really just don't want to do.) for the achievements, which is about all I'd play for at this point.

I have until Thursday next week to decide. I have a UPS label printed to trade in New Vegas for $35... Which as I stated is what I had paid for it taking advantage of Amazon.com offers. Odds are, with my already felt frustrations with the game, if I keep it, it will just remain shelved. If I send it back, I'm likely to pick up Alan Wake, which I have (for whatever reason) not gotten yet.

As noted, I previously had serious issues with Oblivion GOTY on the PS3, errors which to my knowledge were never addressed or patched. Seeing as how Oblivion was my first dealing with Bethesda games, it was off to a bad start. It sort of led me to feel Bethesda doesn't have much care for people who buy their games. I bought Fallout 3 GOTY on the 360 after reading up on game errors, etc. Infact, I pretty much played the entire game using wiki as a guide to avoid any potential problems, because of my experience with Oblivion. It was overall a good experience with a few minor problems as I recall regarding Mothership Zeta. Nothing else comes to mind. Now, New Vegas, I know was developed by Obsidian, not Bethesda... However Bethesda supports it... Take my previous experience with Oblivion into consideration, and you get my current feelings. Now, if they did resolve these issues, but it requires starting a new game, that says to me, DO NOT buy these games within the first 6 months to a year of release. Let them patch it, fix it, etc. Then as I did with Fallout 3, playthrough using wiki to avoid potential issues they never resolved.

So, I'll probably decide over the weekend what I do with New Vegas. Sending it off means I'll pick up something else. Alan Wake or waiting on Killzone 3 are at the top of my list. Keep it and I may potentially one day feel like putting more hours into it. Odds are along the lines of 5% probably, if even that. I have several games I either played for a short time or nearly finished, and had intended to keep playing, but never have. Mostly because the time I spend gaming I play online with my friends, or something new. Did I mention having kids doesn't help play time either? lol, I'll be happy when I can afford another TV!

On a closing note, the biggest draw to these games to me was they feel like a single player MMO to me in ways. Countless quests, companions, huge world to explore. They also svck up all of your free time, and involve things like crafting and farming... Things I hated to end about playing Final Fantasy XI for 5 years! xD
Some people enjoy that stuff though.
I'm not one of em.


Anyways, >.>
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Cliff Notes version not available at this time lol

This game release has been handled extremely badly, and anyone that feels the need to defend Bethesda/Obsidian deserves the sub standard fare they will recieve, both now and in the future. It's you people who will be to blame when Skyrim turns out to be an unplayable pile of buggy rubbish.

When you happily accept poor treatment it tells the mistreater that their behavior is acceptable, and when you happily accept poorly programmed, bug filled games, you are sending the developers the message that they can start cutting even more corners with little to no financial repercussions.

And this thread has proved that I was right not to attempt working around bugs in order to play the game. Would have been a complete waste of time, and not worth the frustration. I've had zero problems, and I'm 6h:30 in. It may get worse, but that is what frequent saving/clearing the game cache is for.

There are enough flames in this thread to burn the whole strip. No need for more ammo.

It's closed. In the future I suggest you all cool it with flaming others because on this forum we warn and suspend posting privileges for flaming someone even if that person flames you first. You are supposed to report flames and not respond to them folks.

By the time I"m done warning folks in thread I'll be an old lady.

edit: Not to mention the autocensor avoidance in the opening post.