hello,

after having installed these mods and since then i cannot level up, it says to meditate on what i have learned but does not show the little moon and up arrow on my HUD and when i sleep the attribute screen doesnt show up.
here is my mod list as BOSS puts it:

Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 963 $, $Date: 2010-05-28 23:30:48 -0700 (Fri, 28 May 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $
All Natural Base.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
. Note: May have a problem with Shivering Isles due to changed FormIDs causing a script to be written into cell data by mistake.
. Note: A fixed edition (for Shivering Isles ONLY! is avaliable here: http://tinyurl.com/kmgaxd
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}
. Note: Do not use with original Real Lights mod.
All Natural.esp
. Note: Required for All Natural.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate}}
All Natural - SI.esp
. Note: Required for All Natural SI support.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate}}
All Natural - Natural Weather.esp
. Note: Only use one All Natural weather plugin.
Cities Alive At Night.esp
IlluminationWithin.esp
Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp
P1DseeYouSleep.esp
Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp
RAEVWD Cities.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
RAEVWD Imperial City.esp
Living Economy.esp
. Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one. (i have its just there because it came with OOO)
Living Economy - SI.esp
. Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one. Shivering Isles expansion.
Living Economy - Items.esp
Landmarks.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
Defensive_staves_Basic.esp
Defensive_staves_Immersive.esp
Defensive_staves_Chest_Optional.esp
Mounted_Spellcasting.esp
Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,R.ChangeSpells,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}
AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
Ivellon.esp
Klarre Forestheart.esp
300_White Stallion 4.esp
. Note: Consider updating to Feudal Empire ('Feudal Empire 300.esp') instead. (i have)
Feudal Empire 300.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Graphics}}
. Note: Use instead of 300_White Stallion 4.esp
300 White Stallion 4 - OOO.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
Knights.esp
OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp
Weye.esp
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
. Note: Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenLeafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
. Note: Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.
xulbravilbarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
. Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
300 Arcane University.esp
Open Cities New Sheoth.esp
Open Cities Outer Districts.esp
Open Cities Full.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
. Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.
Harvest [Flora].esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
goblin_wars.esp
New_Magical_Staves.esp
OL_MyBrumaFireplace.esp
ReneersTrainingMod.esp
Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}
SupremeMagicka.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Graphics}}
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_OOO.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
No psychic guards harder fix.esp
erics_triple_damage_fast_for_archers.esp
. Note: Only use one Erics * for archers.esp
nGCD.esp (i dont use nGCD because i dont quite like the way it does everything)
nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
Dark Dungeons.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,Deactivate}}
Dark Dungeons - SI.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light}}
TSS Custom Companion Template.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Delev,Relev}} if you are running more than one magic overhaul and want to use LAME spell names.
. Note: Move Supreme Magica after LAME if you want Supreme Magica spell stats.
bgMagicEVStartspells.esp
bgMagicEVShader.esp
bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp
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Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
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Unknown mod file: PrimaryNeeds135.esp
Unknown mod file: GB_Armory_PLUS_v3.0.esp
Unknown mod file: GB_Weaponry_PLUS_v3.0.esp
Unknown mod file: bnmDLTIC-1-6fix.esp
Unknown mod file: nmDLTIC-1-6fix.esp
Unknown mod file: ICTradersApartment.esp
Unknown mod file: FMan-MyFarm.esp
Unknown mod file: Spells Be Effective.esp

i just put these at the end of the list

i m sorry its all in a bunch but i was really too long to be left with the spaces in between.

edit: i just put OOO in the title because i thought it was the only thing that remotly changed the leveling since i dont use nGCD

Quick guess, but... Are there special instructions for uninstalling nGCD in its readme? Perhaps it wasn't uninstalled completely or completely correctly?

gothemasticator

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Post your current actual load order via Wrye Bash instead. It's confusing when the provided list isn't what you actually are running.

OOO doesn't affect the leveling mechanics besides slowing it down, so that can't be it. In fact, with the exception of nGCD I can't see anything in the load order that affects it, although I'm not familiar with all the mods. I'd double check the nGCD uninstall as gothemasticator said.

EDIT: My guess is that you still have nGCD's levelup_menu.xml (in Data\menus) left from the nGCD install. Remove that if so. Another option perhaps, from the nGCD readme:

before I posted this I looked in the readme and all t said about uninstalling was that I had to run a command line in the console then wait ten seconds and voilà I could reload without crashing. I'll have an other look and see what happens...

Yes, but you can't just do that and deactivate the esp. nGCD's levelup_menu.xml removes the level up window so you need to remove it as well.

@Arkngt quite right.

i still had the install files so i deleted all the files that nGCD needed for installation in the Data directory in OB and now it works fine

:celebration:

ty everybody