I won't play them because they're simple, generic, and just plain bad compared to even crappy modern shooters.

Oh sure, after spending hours and hours of my life. In addition, due to the way things work out, there WILL be better weapons/perks/whatever. In addition, there will be builds that are counters to mine, like a sniper taking out shotgun users on a more open map. Now, it is within reason that players should adapt to that, but when you play a certain class heavily, and all you have are unlocks for that class, switching out on different maps that do not support your chosen play style becomes difficult, sometimes downright unbearable.

There is no dispute that Quake has a more even playing field, because you literally do not have to make a choice. Everybody spawns with the same weapon, has access to the same weapons, and to the same powerups the INSTANT they join the map, regardless of play time. A noob can pick up the BFG same as a pro. Not so in Call of Duty, where a noob is stuck with the crappy starting weapon while a long time player gets access to the M-16 with all their doodads, powerups, perks, and other cheap tricks (did they really need to add an exploding remote control car to the game?), not to mention kill streaks.

I played Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2 a lot. I mean a ton. And what I came out on the other side realizing was that much of the gameplay of those games was simply finding out the way to be the cheesiest, cheapest bastard on the map. Finding the cheapest, easiest spot to camp/roam around in, get the best weapon for that specific spot, and most players wouldn't even be able to see you before they died. No skill involved. I spent most of my time reloading my weapon than actually fighting. Now, that isn't to say that skill didn't come into play many times, because it died, but I found many, many games could be won by finding out the cheesiest spot to hide, and then sit there and rake in the kills with uber one-shot weapons like the M-16 with headshots.

Or god forbid, akimbo 1887s.

But you know that a lot of advancement hasn't been made when I could go onto MW2 about a month ago and still get a game easy. I don't see how dishing out $120 a year for basically the same game with a new mask is a good idea.

I'm not saying that CoD should totally rework what they do, but I think some improvements need to be made to make me interested in actually shelling out money to play it. What CoD is doing is successful, obviously, but they have to grow and evolve into something bigger/better to make me interested in it.

That was a fun read. I'll respond when I get home in about an hour.

I had no problem playing Arena and Daggerfall, but the reason I don't touch FPS's of any kind is because they just look so... repetitively straightforward.

Same thing with COD and other shooters, there will be campers, its not their fault you like to walk into their traps.

Don't put me down because your not good at the game or because the game isnt working the way you want it to play. You tricks and techniques dont work? You should have known better if you want to play the game. Thats the game.

Don't put me down

See, but that's why old FPS games were so great. They focused entirely upon the level design. Doom doesn't pretend to have a great story, or deep characters, or whatever. It just gives you a level and a gun and lets you go at it. Level design in Doom is very important and makes each level different from the last. Same thing for Quake. They spend all their time making the game FUN rather than trying to slather eye candy on it or trick you. Its gameplay first.


Great, now you're making assumptions about my gameplay.

I was damn good at CoD, but because of that I noticed many things about it. Like I said; cheap, cheap, cheap wins the game. Whoever does the cheapest cheesiest crap has a much higher chance to win. And no, you can't just "avoid" their traps, because the best spots to get in on the maps are the ones in the highest traffic areas. Even if I do avoid the enemies in those spots (which I often did), that won't stop other fools from bumbling right through their line of fire. I can only do so much on my own before each other terrible player ruins it. Cheap techniques work well here because they take little time to accomplish and are usually low risk, compared to trying to edge around the map and get straight up kills in firefights.

Once again, I was damn good at CoD. I won many of the games I played each day. The game svcked. Flat out svcked. If you don't want to bother actually arguing the points I made, then I'm done replying to you. You can try attacking me as a player, but I've been playing FPS games for a long, long time, and certainly know what I'm doing and talking about, especially since, as I stated, most of this is based on observation through Call of Duty 2, Modern Warfare, and Modern Warfare 2, all of which I was very skilled at.

Not worrying about how you play.

I'm saying your calling techniques and tactics cheap when they're not. Cheating via hacking, or partying up and using teamwork in a FFA match to boost, those teachniques and tactics are cheap.

The game is the game. If I have to do something you consider cheap to win, I gotta do what I gotta do to win. Don't cry.

The Pro: "Stop shooting fireball your noob, your so cheap"
The Noob: "Its not my fault you dont know how to block or jump over"

Getting all the run perks, then running around and knifing wasn't cheap? Lagging AND knifing wasn't cheap? It was pretty much unstoppable, yet this is a game about SHOOTING and we have half the server running around KNIFING PEOPLE.

The game was flat out cheap. Balance was non-existence. When all you had to do in that game was run around with akimbo 1887s and press both triggers, yes, its very, very cheap.

At least most fighting games have counter buttons or mechanics, so spamming is a very stupid tactic. Try that in Soul Caliber and watch what happens.

I won't play them because they're simple, generic, and just plain bad compared to even crappy modern shooters.

I'm willing to pay the $120/yr for COD if it stays sick. Its like WOW. You pay for what you get. Prolly wont get MW3 if it doesnt have zombie or another extra cool mode in addition to its multiplayer. Unless of course everyone I know has it, then I'm a have to grab it.

I wanna run a game 8pm at night, theres mad people online tryin to run COD, 5am in the morning still alota people on playing COD, 10 am in the morning, still alota people on playing COD.

Its a good game and worth the price/year

Forget CoD, bring back TimeSplitters.