BC..market district problems : IV

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:14 pm

so, if you've been following my threads the last couple days you would know that i'm having some problems with better IC, now something else is wrong. the market district has random stuff floating (crates, sacks), and also some part of it seems to have been "lifted up", such as the stairs on either side to the arena and elven garden districts, those are so high now that the guards can't get onto the first step of the stairs to stand their watch, they're just nonstop walking into the raised stairs...some other crates/sacks, such as the ones in front of jensine's shop, and the ones in front of thoronir's shop, are floating in midair, it was fine before and now suddenly this happens, what on earth is going on....(or maybe this is caused by quarl's texture pack 3? because i just installed that and this happened, maybe it's incompatible with BC or something...either way just more problems and coming from nowhere..

mod list as usual, added some clothing mods but really they shouldn't have affected anything...

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thanks a bunch for any inputs.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:11 pm

One day you'll actually find the official http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1093401-relz-bananasplits-better-cities-thread-34/ thread, and then it will be easier to assist you.

You haven't done as instructed in the readme to ensure that BC IC loads after all other mods which touch the Imperial City.

9F Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
A2 1SB_PureFantasyMage_Outfits.esp
A3 Colourwheels sixy Panty Shop HGEC.esp
A4 00_Niora'sCorsets.esp
A5 SG007_Nobody.esp

At least one of these mods is editing the Market District, so needs to load before BC IC.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:51 am

ah sorry, i probably should post these problems on the thread..was sort of debating on whether i'll get any help if i post in a multipage thread like that, from now on i'll do that if it makes it easier

and thanks i'll try to manually reorder those mods to try this again.

EDIT: I'd just like to say thanks a lot dp, and i seriously asked the most noob question there, considering i've been using mods for so many years...:S the Nobody mod fixed it, and yeah that was really dumb sorry to waste your time...

ALTHOUGH, the crate with 2 sacks in front of jensine's shop is still floating, just like before, that looks like an issue with the mod itself, becaused theres nothing loading after bc-ic besides bc-cobl, which must load after, bashed patch and streamline, but then thats so minor i should be able to live with it...

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:33 pm

That crate is very much on the ground in the mod. Another mod must have edited the crate if it's floating for you. If we don't actually edit the crate at all (merely everything around it) then even a mod loading before Better Cities can move the crate up off the ground.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:14 pm

hm i see what you mean, BC must've not actually touched those 3 things, hence some mod has raised them and they remain raised...oh gosh trying to find that now out of 200+ mods...

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:13 pm

Have you tried using wryebash and lowering the IC esp down below the bashed patch? This esp HAS to be lower on your load list to work properly.