I'm still struggling with 11G, too. It's a pain managing the memory. I can only have one game installed to the hard drive. It's doable and money's tight, but by Skyrim, I'll certainly upgrade to the big boy.

5.9GB is the size of the installed game excluding the content. Also the DLC is barely half a gigabyte. Duel layer DVD's hold 8.1-8.3GB of space but still that sounds like enough, doesn't it?

Sure would seem like enough to me.

How do you manage with 11GB's of memory? I upgraded long ago, well atleast when you get a new one it will be alot better then what you have now.

Thats why Microsoft needs to offer a way to get bluray and needs to switch over everything for us xbox users.

Maybe their next console will have Blu-ray. The blu-ray players aren't as dere as they use to be.

i don't care how many discs it is gong to be as long as the game is amazing

There have been complaints about the formats limitation, id had to make some changes to there latest game because of it. It was one the questions I wanted to ask Todd, in the GI podcast.

Yeah, atm there's problem that devs say they "streamline" games while actually dumbing them down or skinning the content because consoles have their limitations.. I really don't see problem with PS3 and bluray, but xbox, esp. older ones with no harddrive are just so called limitations, if compressing hasn't been done very vell, or depends on a game - open world games are really hard to play on multi-discs

That actually got me thinking why did they made trailer etc from xbox?
Is it microsoft's money:)?
or
. xbox is most limitating = they first make game on that platform and port to PS3 and PC later? (really don't like that idea)
or
the most epic would be (and quite logical) that they show content on xbox because they don't want to show it on PC with all those cool DX11/ whatever else mindblowing stuff. Xbox later would seem bad for an eye:)
A la start small and then ---> PC will be eyecandy and "bonus" and exta wow omfg this is epic" comments/reviews!

But yeah, it could be xbox is the most limitating and they must dev it there first. Oblivion 2005 demos anyone? remember? They got xbox 6 months prior to release and had to cut much.. (not only because xbox of course, but I think that was also new and many things didn't work as well they thought)
Now they had of course all the time to work on console versions etc., so I really am putting my faith in the game, playing it PC myself, since I don't have xbox/ps3.

All the best!

P.S. Microsoft lost HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray war - they are not admitting it and lately they joined with Apple against Blu-Ray to form a lawsuit - Microsoft is in big money of course and these things happen in bizworld... and they won't use blurays in their system in this decade for sure!

Misunderstanding, sorry, this was a thread on their forum from 2006, not their own reporting. All I was saying is that gamers were worried about disk space back then, and they are still worried now, even though compression techniques have improved since then.

they had to work on compression techniques cause of the limitations
of course that is in many ways good, because now there's quite endless limit to use the space.
15-20 years back they could compress things magically, cause many things were on floppys
if they had same amounts of room to waste 50mb game would be 120mb etc
500 1,2gb etc
now it's trend to compress again, too much wasting, but yeah.. trying to stay in topic

It would be really cool if Microsoft releases a SSD disc to Xbox, so you can install skyrim and eliminate the horrible loading times

Except there are versions of the 360 that didn't come with a decent hard drive, and to buy one separately is so far overpriced that I can't understand how anybody doesn't refuse in principle. Microsoft's guidelines (and rightfully so) dissallow any developer from requiring a peripheral everybody doesn't have - though I imagine kinect will be exempt from that.

From what I recall, most multiple disc games have a ton of FMV cutscenes which eat up disc space way more than data, and Bethesda games have little if any FMV which I would think is at least one reason why we shouldn't be too worried about content. I spent like 900 hours in Fallout 3 and didn't see all of the content that was on that disc. I think it'll be alright

Don’t see how Oblivion was hold back by consoles, it was a very demanding PC game then it was realised. Yes the interface it bad but that is the only issue. Oblivion is also less than 5GB leaving 3GB free,

And the solution for xbox is probably to compress voices better and reduce quality as they use a lot of the space. Quite posible that the price of xbox harddrives falls to as more games run into the 8GB limit.

Any one got a new xbox s? is it better cuz i just got red ringed

It was very demanding because of how poorly optimised it was, rather than on its own merits. However, yes, console launch games and games around there are games where there is pretty much no technological argument for consoles holding back PCs. However, it's 6 years later, and skyrim is certainly no launch title.

It's kind of Bethesda's thing for games to be system eaters. I distinctly remember Morrowind being the same way.

Skyrim will be large I wouldn't be surprised if it took 7 GB to install it to the harddrive. Maybe I'll get lucky and it's closer to New Vegas's amount which was 4.8 GB.

You don't need a Hard drive for the 360. I thought you can use a genric USB stick now. That is enough to save games if you really need too. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I thought I read.

I think they should use multiple discs rather than limit the game because of the 360's DVD. There is a install option on the 360 so there is no problem. I wish they focus the game on the PS3 and take advantage of the 50 GB blu ray this would allow for a much bigger game than what they are currently doing. This would never happen though since 360 is the top priority for the developers.