How many Elder Scrolls Exist : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:05 pm

Hey all,

I am just wondering how many Elder Scrolls are there?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:38 pm

How many Elder Scrolls games there are? That would be 5 from the main series (including Skyrim), plus Battlespire and Redguard, two spinoff non-RPG games based in the Elder Scrolls universe. So 7.

But if you're talking about the Scrolls that hold prophecies about Tamriel, I don't think anybody knows.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:08 pm

Yeah, no one knows how many Elder Scrolls there are. I don't even think anyone in-game knows. We know that, as of Skyrim, there will be AT LEAST five of them, as every game has its own Elder Scroll being written about the main plot of the game.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:52 am

How many Elder Scrolls games there are? That would be 5 from the main series (including Skyrim), plus Battlespire and Redguard, two spinoff non-RPG games based in the Elder Scrolls universe. So 7.

But if you're talking about the Scrolls that hold prophecies about Tamriel, I don't think anybody knows.

Yeah, no one knows how many Elder Scrolls there are. I don't even think anyone in-game knows. We know that, as of Skyrim, there will be AT LEAST five of them, as every game has its own Elder Scroll being written about the main plot of the game.

I thought there was a reference in the thieves’ guild storyline in Oblivion

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:51 pm

I thought there was a reference in the thieves’ guild storyline in Oblivion

Nothing that states or hints at how many Elder Scrolls there are total.

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:01 am

Infinity hopefully cause that's how many games there should be :tes:

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:03 pm

Yeah, no one knows how many Elder Scrolls there are. I don't even think anyone in-game knows. We know that, as of Skyrim, there will be AT LEAST five of them, as every game has its own Elder Scroll being written about the main plot of the game.

Didn't we steal an Elder Scroll in a thief guild quest? My memory may be hazy, but if that's the case, then that would make 6 Elder Scrolls that we know of.

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:35 am

Didn't we steal an Elder Scroll in a thief guild quest?

Spoiler

yes we did

but if that's the case, then that would make 6 Elder Scrolls that we know of.

well if you look inside the cabinets in the libary, you can see there is alot more of them :laugh:

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:55 am

Didn't we steal an Elder Scroll in a thief guild quest? My memory may be hazy, but if that's the case, then that would make 6 Elder Scrolls that we know of.

Why? The one we stole could have been--and mostly likely was--the one for the player-character-hero in Oblivion. The Elder Scrolls write themselves, so it's not like we prevented further progress on it from being written by stealing it.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:23 am

Why? The one we stole could have been--and mostly likely was--the one for the player-character-hero in Oblivion. The Elder Scrolls write themselves, so it's not like we prevented further progress on it from being written by stealing it.

What? No it's not. It had direct relation to the Gray Fox, Nocturnal, and how to break the curse. It wasn't about The Champion of Cyrodiil.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:57 pm

What? No it's not. It had direct relation to the Gray Fox, Nocturnal, and how to break the curse. It wasn't about The Champion of Cyrodiil.

I think Velorien meant the PC, not the Champion of Cyrodiil, with "player-character-hero". But you're right, it was about the Gray Fox, not the CoC. It's just a coincidence (yeah, sure, huuuge coincidence) if those two happen to be the same person.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:36 am

Well,since Elder Scrolls work with crypted messages appearing on them and Moth Priests interpreting those messages,I'm guessing their number is not limited?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:18 pm

I didn't understand that there were only five because of Redguard and Battlespire, until someone cleared that up. But I've only played Morrowind and Oblivion cause I can't get the older ones to work on my pc. Anyone know how to get them to work with windows 7?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:03 pm

your forgetting The travels games,Shadowkey, Dawnstar, Oblivion mobile....and...wasn't there another?

and for that matter wasnt there supposed to be a psp TES?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:10 pm

What? No it's not. It had direct relation to the Gray Fox, Nocturnal, and how to break the curse. It wasn't about The Champion of Cyrodiil.

The Champion of Cyrodiil, as in the player-character of Oblivion? You just said yourself that it was in direct relation to the Gray Fox, Nocturnal, and how to break the curse. How is that NOT about the CoC? The CoC is the one who stole it and the one who became the Gray Fox because the curse was broken. That whole storyline could not have happened without the CoC.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:56 pm

your forgetting The travels games,Shadowkey, Dawnstar, Oblivion mobile....and...wasn't there another?

and for that matter wasnt there supposed to be a psp TES?

Only the numbered games count (Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim). Reguard, Battlespire, Shadowkey, Dawnstar and Oblivion Mobile aren't numbered, therefore don't have an elderscroll related to them since their storylines didn't affect the History of Tamriel.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:00 pm

The Champion of Cyrodiil, as in the player-character of Oblivion? You just said yourself that it was in direct relation to the Gray Fox, Nocturnal, and how to break the curse. How is that NOT about the CoC? The CoC is the one who stole it and the one who became the Gray Fox because the curse was broken. That whole storyline could not have happened without the CoC.

It's very debatable that the CoC is the same person as the Gray Fox. For one, if the CoC went off to The Shivering Isles, how did he/she take care of thieves guild? Who would become the next Gray Fox? And anyway, how likely is it that the CoC became guildmaster of all of the guilds in Cyrodiil? And if not all, then which ones did he become master of?

We just can't assume that they're the same person.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:43 pm

i really don't think it's possible to actually QUANTIFY the elder scrolls extant on Nirn. any attempts to do so would just lead to a lot of weird interpretations and massive headaches.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:41 pm

The Champion of Cyrodiil, as in the player-character of Oblivion? You just said yourself that it was in direct relation to the Gray Fox, Nocturnal, and how to break the curse. How is that NOT about the CoC? The CoC is the one who stole it and the one who became the Gray Fox because the curse was broken. That whole storyline could not have happened without the CoC.

The scroll that was stolen was the one that

Spoiler

mentions that Emer Dareloth stole the Cowl from Nocturnal, which caused a paradox and broke the curse of the Grey Fox (the curse being that anyone who wore the Cowl would be stricken from history and not be remembered, but the Elder Scrolls are stronger than the curse and "remembered" who the original wearer was).

The scroll was not about current events or the CoC.

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:54 am

Yeah, no one knows how many Elder Scrolls there are. I don't even think anyone in-game knows. We know that, as of Skyrim, there will be AT LEAST five of them, as every game has its own Elder Scroll being written about the main plot of the game.

Well the Moth preists could probably tell you, assuming they're not like the Imperium of man, losing whole planets to rounding errors. Anyway, if you want a quick and dirty count, you can count the number of visible scrolls in the Imperial library's wall mesh in-game, plus 1 for the scroll stolen during the theives guild questline.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:41 pm

It would be cool to have someone from the monastic order in the games (forget the name) that actually divines these portents, they are all blind and blindfolded apparently...

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:01 pm

Only the numbered games count (Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim). Reguard, Battlespire, Shadowkey, Dawnstar and Oblivion Mobile aren't numbered, therefore don't have an elderscroll related to them since their storylines didn't affect the History of Tamriel.

So Arena mustn't count too - it is not numbered.

And storylines of Redguard, Battlespire and Shadowkey greatly affect the history of Tamriel.

And there is "The Elder Scrolls Novels" too.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:11 pm

So Arena mustn't count too - it is not numbered.

And storylines of Redguard, Battlespire and Shadowkey greatly affect the history of Tamriel.

And there is "The Elder Scrolls Novels" too.

The truth of the matter is that trying to figure out whether or not a game has a elder scroll "associated" with their events is like trying to determine whether the vast nothingness has pink dots or green dots when you can't see any dots.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:52 pm

I didn't understand that there were only five because of Redguard and Battlespire, until someone cleared that up. But I've only played Morrowind and Oblivion cause I can't get the older ones to work on my pc. Anyone know how to get them to work with windows 7?

http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN

Daggerfall should work with this simple installer.

Atleast it does on Vista 64 =P

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:41 pm

There could be limitless Elder Scrolls. Think of previous kalpas as well as hero prophecies that don't take place in the game. There were many heroes and hero-gods besides the player characters. And major event such as the dawn of an era could hold some as well.