________N______>Time
------------ U--------->Space
------------ M--------
-------------I---------
------------ D---------> 6 undeniable spaces/actions 1 Time
-------------I--------- Only one constant which is Numidium
-------------U--------
________M_____

Time and space work together as layers. Each layer is so thin, one walks them and doesn't notice the spaces in between. Every action causes ripples which affect unseen fields and dimensions. If one object were to cause large enough interactions that other fields bent and shifted so that they, themselves were remade, the seen dimension would also be subject to illogical recourse, and one would be able to look between the lines of time and space and see other realities, all of which are 100% real. Thus by creating a stack of paper and examining small creatures that live upon each one, they would consider their plane to be singular. Only when a sharp pin is stuck though the entire stack, do its inhabitants gain the ability to see not just their own flat land, but the above and below as well. In an astounding phenomenon, those layers all become the same dimension by way of the sharp pin that connects them.

Sincerely
-Chaplain's Mind

Dude, I remember making a note about that fact that the Imperials didn't "appear" untile TES III awhile back (under a different name; I changed because of name BS) but someone basically said it was poppycock...

Now this...I get mad when someone tells me I'm wrong, then I find out i was right... :banghead:

No, they appeared earlier, in Redgaurd. So you're both were wrong :foodndrink:

One betrayed the other? You don't say! They HAD to have seen that coming.

A good post. I think that perhaps the races of the enantiomorph do not matter... it's the spaces they filled. They were the complete set of players, though they were all humans they reenacted the cosmic theater of which the elves and their deity were a part. I'm sure the elves wouldn't agree, but was the source elven. /realquestionkoffkoff

The Eternal Champion wandered up there casually to get a staff piece just a few years before, and seeing that the only resistance before you got inside his spider hole was wandering corpus freaks, he seems to be investing the minimum in security anyway. Then one hero marches up the hill alone and knocks him down to break his toy.

He's spending his time building a mechwarrior, powered by the same source of his own power. He wants his hobby toy to be the new god, to push the outlanders out, get rid of the false gods, and then kick ass across the empire.

His plans are simple and straightforward. They all end with everyone being conquered by subversion or conquest and having them worship Akulakhan. In the mean time he has the short term goals of putting his cronies in charge, getting land back from invaders, ethnic cleansing of inferior races, getting rid of the old government and religion, ect.

The kind of things bad guys on saturday morning animated shows talk about all the time. My thinking is: Why not shorten the process by skipping the building of the robot? Can it do something with the heart Dagoth couldn't? Does he suffer stagefright?

Dagoth Ur isn't as smart as Kagrenac. He's no more in complete control of the Heart than the Tribunal were.

That's not simple and straightforward at all shades.

Ur's ultimate desire was the ascension of all mortals in Tamriel into divinity through Corprus. That's a more complex plan of action than any other villain yet to plague Tamriel.

Literally.
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Ur was an interesting feller. He sought worship for his creation, not himself.

Tweren't me. I've always thought that.


Are you sure? I do not think that Redguard mentioned the Imperials as a race, only "Imperial" as a term denoting things concerning the Empire. The Imperial race did not occur until TES III. Please correct me with a source should I be mistaken.

___The Word Merchant of Julianos

Among humans, the races are often artificial or arbitrary constructs. The Imperials in Redguard sure as heck weren't Bretons

What makes you think so?

The PGE came out with Redgaurd and it has Cyrodiil as a populated province with it's own race.

Although called Cyro-Nords, the first paragraph of the PGE 1st ed., Cyrodiil section states that the humans of Cyrodiil are Nordic. Cyrodiilic history is just another part of Nordic history.

"Indeed, if the history of the Nords is the history of humans on Tamriel, then Cyrodiil is the throne from which they will decide their destiny." (http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/cyrodiil.shtml)

___TWM

I think what it was saying is that the Nords represent the men's past, Cyrodiil represents men's future. That is whay I got from it. But by this time, a people and a name have been added to the Imperial Province, which is more than was there during Daggerfall, in which the Imperial Province was wilderness and the melting pot of the Imperial City.

Edit: People still call them Cyro-Nords.

The Colovians probably have more Nord than Nede.

Making them Cyro-Nords.

Bingo.
Nordic culture probably eclipsed Nedic culture for long stretches (or at least existed in a combination) except for when Nibenay rises to power and expresses itself.

http://www.imperial-library.info/races/imperial.shtml

Imperials don't seem to be in the first three games.

During a dragon break, it is possible to go back and plant an indigenous race, let's say Nedes, into history. This would in fact be giving birth to your own fathers.

I'm just saying this for the sake of argument, but if this were done, now (in our current time stream/reality) Nedes always existed in Tamriel (which settles the whole why don't they come from Atmora thing). No one, in game at least, would know any better. In our world, history is written by the victor, in TES history is written by apotheosis.