Why dont you have to become horator of house indroil and dres? I always thought that made NO sense...

They were late to the party (i.e. they weren't present in Vvardenfel, so they had no say on the matter)

I'm sure its because Nerevar was only Hortator of only 3 Houses (if not specifically Redoran, Hlaalu, and Telvanni). "3 Houses name him Hortator."

Dres and Indoril also aren't on Vvardenfell.

Yes they are look threw TR which is lorefreinly. Indroil is in the southern portion. It just isnt in morrowind indroil think of indroil armor and the south-western portion.

Dres and Indoril have no holdings in Vvardenfel at all, only Redoran, Hlaalu, and Telvanni. They do have holdings in the mainland, but that's towards the mid-east and south east.

Even then, they weren't there in the game. Soooo....

I got the impression that each Great House could have their own seperate Hortator, but that the Nerevarine just had to fufill the prophecies by being a Hortator for three Great Houses simulataneously. Why just three? Well prophesies are often full of arbitrary requirements. Goes with the territory.

Dagoth Ur got off easy. There should have been one part of the prophesy that required the nerevarine to fight him without any pants :banghead:

Again you are speaking of MORROWIND haveing no indroil and dres. Vvaranaval DOES have it not to mention they could just have some leader of dres and indroil apear and give you a quest and if you succeed you become horator.

Not contesting your information, but where does it say that?

Dude, are you mixing up Morrowind and Vvardenfell? Vvardenfell is the island, Morrowind is the entire province which includes Vvardenfell and the mainland parts.


Besides, it doesn't even matter. Like I said, prophecies can be as particular and arbitrary as they like. If the prophecy says 3, then all it needs is 3. It could have just as easily been only 2, and the player would take their pick of the 3 Great Houses on Vvardenfell.

Sry i meant to switch them but WHY is the prophecies like that. Is their any concrete evidence stating the beth changed their mind ( meaning they were orrigionly going to do all 5.?

I believe to have read somewhere that in the early stages of MW, it was intended to cover the entire providence with all 5 houses, but it got chopped.

I see... thats why their is a global that has to do with dres but its never used...

There's Dres art in the MW artbook, so they were probably planned to be put in at some point. Orvas Dren seems like he may have originally been Dres.

But as for the prophecy, this is a hole in the lore. Nerevar is supposed to be the leader of ALL the Dunmer clans, as is stated in every book on the subject, but during production they had to trim down the scope. Thus, not all Dunmer groups could really be in the game, but what gets me is that they didn't even bother to phone in the votes of Indoril and Dres. They could have just had it so that Dres would make you Hortator if all the other houses did, and Indoril would do it if Vivec gave his support (although Nerevar actually was an Indoril, so maybe their vote was assumed).

People are gettin WAY too pedantic with this Prophecy anolyzation: "he's not Hortator of ALL houses," "he's not leader of all houses," blah blah blah. You might as well complain about why there aren't any kids, bathrooms, and everyone wears the same type of underwear.

Seriously. Let's kinda drop it. Plus, concerning Houses and Tribes, http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/sevenvisions.shtmland be contented.

Yeah, trial #4 should really be the end all be all answer to the question of why the Nerevarine became the Hortator. You only really need 3/5, so if Indoril and/or Dres were in Vvardenfel, anyone can pick 3/5 houses there. Plus, I really don't want to have to send a letter to the leaders of Indoril and Dres to get my approval. Not to mention they'd more likely deny the nerevarine's request more so than the 3 in Vvardenfel.

True, Indoril is to much a part of the Temple to ever agree nameing an outlander Hortator. Dres is the most traditionalist of all houses and thus xenophobic/racist.
The Hlaalu can be bribed and the Telvanni don't care if you want to call yourself Nerevarine. And if they do care you could always kill them of.


The mod Less Generic Tribunal gives you the option to become Indoril and Dres hortator if I recall correctly.