Well guys, it seems the whole issue started after using BOSS. It reordered my load order, as it should have, but now my game crashes on start. :brokencomputer: I dont know if it's the load order itself, or if I just need to download a crash prevention utility. But if you guys could check my load order and make any corrections, I'd be much obliged.


Oblivion.esm
Windfall.esm
TR_OoT_Main.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
weather inside [seasons] v1.2.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Brighter_Torches.esp
CityLights - ImperialCity.esp
personality_idles2.esp
SPARTAN VIs Diverse City Guards v1 2.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
StandingJOJO.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Tyrael Armor.esp
Vvardenfell_Imports.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Diverse Imperial Armor v1.1.esp
GP_Safe Water.esp
AnvilBayExpansion.esp
Bravil Docks.esp
Castle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp
(DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
Extended Chorrol.esp
Extended Skingrad.esp
SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Modified Version.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Let The People Drink Compatible Version - Merged.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
ICEXPAND.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
TR_Stirk.esp
Weye.esp
Windfall.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
road+bridges.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
BravilDocks-Barrowfields patch.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp
West Roads.esp
Castle_Seaview.esp
CastleSeaview-SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp
bartholm.esp
bartholm - EE patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Ring of console.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp
Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp
MidasSpells.esp
TRN One of the Gang.esp
CTAddPose_v_1.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
77_Umpa_Animation.esp
EFGAddPose.esp
shinyEmotions.esp
Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp
idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esp
idkrrr_sarams_race.esp
NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
MergedMaps.esp
Cernasite - OracleEyes.esp
Walkabout.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
WR OotG Addon.esp
Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp

That list... doesn't quite look right. It repeats itself, somewhat, at least once, that I can see.

Have you got Wrye Bash installed? If not, I strongly suggest doing so, and then posting your load order courtesy of that wonderful application.

Sorry - I would try to anolyse that entire list, but it's just too much of a jumble for me at the moment. No offense intended.

Did you post your load order twice or what? I see many duplicate plugins, and that load order is not sorted completely anyway. You must not have done anything with the unknowns BOSS listed...

Load Ordering - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=load_order


Edit: Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.esp <-- wasting a plugin slot

Oblivion.ini Tweaks - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=oblivion_ini_tweaks

Popular Outdated Mods - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=popular_outdated_mods <-- You are using multiple of these. Natural Weather is fine, at least...


Edit: Update the UOP, especially if you are using a version pre-3.2.9

Edit: Really, you only need to drop/upgrade Weather Inside and Natural Vegetation...

Edit: That list is so confusing, please edit your opening post, OP.

Sorry about that guys, it does seem that I posted my load order twice. :blush2: I edited my first post to get rid of the duplicates. Sorry again guys.

I still cannot tell where BOSS stopped sorting, but you still need to manually tweak that LO some...

Any specific areas you would advise tweaking, Tomlong? Oh, and everything from Cernasite-Oracle eyes down (the last 6 mods) were left alone by BOSS.

Yes.


Edit: You can start your testing by disabling half of your mods at a time. Keep halving until you narrow down to the problematic mod(s).

I would also recommend grabbing http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29790, if you have MS Word on your PC. It's very handy.

edit: And updating your masterlist, then running BOSS, before doing anything else. Just my 2c. For instance, at least two of those unsorted plugins at the end of your (new) list *do* get sorted, with the latest masterlist.

Don't worry...you will eventually get it. It took me a year and a half to understand load order well enough to play correctly.

1. Get Wrye Bash, make a bashed patch, and use Bash to printout your load order as well.

2. I know that quoted above isn't right. Make sure you have the http://better-oblivion-sorting-software.googlecode.com/svn/masterlist.txt <- Save this in your Data folder.
As I know Snowdale, Tales of Elsweyr and Enhanced economy don't belong down there.