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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:46 pm

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?61827-**Morrowind-Total-War-!-**

This it?


Nah, it was another one. The Imperial Legion soldiers were based off the ones from Oblivion, in terms of the armour that is.

Edit: I did a quick google search and came up with this http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/35023-tamriel-total-war/ from the Nexus forums. It seems to be dead, production has halted. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:18 pm

So has anyone here played the http://www.moddb.com/mods/third-age-total-war mod? The mod itself is really well made so far, it looks and plays like it was made by a real team of professional developers IMO. I can't wait until the next release which will include custom settlements. :hehe: e.g. Minas Tirith, Helms Deep, Minas Morgul, etc

I downloaded Third Age and played hours of it today. I'm playing as the Dwarves (because it goes without saying that they're awesome) and I'm campaigning exclusively against the Orcs of Gundabad or whatever the name is. Anyway, my point to this is to point out how freaking hard this is. Ive got no money due to my troops being so expensive, and my campaigning takes me north and west into the Grey Mountains, into places where I can't resupply and retrain. Every time I take out one of their armies they just make another one just like that!! As I said, I have no logistics to speak of, its a send-an-army-in-and-see-how-long-they-last thing, which the Dwarves do amazingly well at, but generally its just too much. In the mean time, Rhun is kicking Dale's ass and they dont seem like too friendly of a nation. Were they to defeat Dale I think I would be in trouble. My biggest issue though is when doing battle with the orcs, I have no maneuverability at all. I've got super strong, super slow infantry but in the end tactics will win the day, not brute force. That, and the orcish archers absolutely tear me up. By the time i ran up a hill to engage their army in one of the battles, 3 cohorts of them had taken out 17, yes 17 percent of my army, and its not like I was wasting time. Does anyone have any tips?

EDIT: Well, nevermind. I took this settlement called Latish or something, just at the south western base of the Grey Mountains, and somehow that killed the faction. Man, those Dwarven troops hold better than any phalanx formation in any total war game ever, and they're not phalanx. A Dwarf unit routing is unheard of too apparently, since their morale seems to be as hard as their steel. One of my units fought down to 5 men and still didn't run.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:00 am

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?61827-**Morrowind-Total-War-!-**

This it?

Or this... http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=375688 (still wip)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:42 pm

I downloaded Third Age and played hours of it today. I'm playing as the Dwarves (because it goes without saying that they're awesome) and I'm campaigning exclusively against the Orcs of Gundabad or whatever the name is. Anyway, my point to this is to point out how freaking hard this is. Ive got no money due to my troops being so expensive, and my campaigning takes me north and west into the Grey Mountains, into places where I can't resupply and retrain. Every time I take out one of their armies they just make another one just like that!! As I said, I have no logistics to speak of, its a send-an-army-in-and-see-how-long-they-last thing, which the Dwarves do amazingly well at, but generally its just too much. In the mean time, Rhun is kicking Dale's ass and they dont seem like too friendly of a nation. Were they to defeat Dale I think I would be in trouble. My biggest issue though is when doing battle with the orcs, I have no maneuverability at all. I've got super strong, super slow infantry but in the end tactics will win the day, not brute force. That, and the orcish archers absolutely tear me up. By the time i ran up a hill to engage their army in one of the battles, 3 cohorts of them had taken out 17, yes 17 percent of my army, and its not like I was wasting time. Does anyone have any tips?

EDIT: Well, nevermind. I took this settlement called Latish or something, just at the south western base of the Grey Mountains, and somehow that killed the faction. Man, those Dwarven troops hold better than any phalanx formation in any total war game ever, and they're not phalanx. A Dwarf unit routing is unheard of too apparently, since their morale seems to be as hard as their steel. One of my units fought down to 5 men and still didn't run.


I've never played as the Dwarves, but I think you convinced me to try them out. :D Maybe when the next version is released I'll have a go as them.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:56 am

I believe someone said in the first thread that he didn't know the battle event Site Of Famous Battle, but is there anyone who have the battle event called The Man Of The Hour occur yet?

Until today I only had the Site Of Famous Battle so far when the The Man Of The Hour suddenly appear. :whistling:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:06 pm

I believe someone said in the first thread that he didn't know the battle event Site Of Famous Battle, but is there anyone who have the battle event called The Man Of The Hour occur yet?

Until today I only had the Site Of Famous Battle so far when the The Man Of The Hour suddenly appear. :whistling:


Is that when you have the option to recruit the captain as a general? If so, I've had that happen one or two times, but only after battles were the balance was mostky tipped towards the enemy (by mostly I mean alot).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:41 am

I believe someone said in the first thread that he didn't know the battle event Site Of Famous Battle, but is there anyone who have the battle event called The Man Of The Hour occur yet?

Until today I only had the Site Of Famous Battle so far when the The Man Of The Hour suddenly appear. :whistling:

If the Man of the Hour is when you get to recruit the captain who led a battle, from my experience there's a chance of that happening when you really trounce the enemy in battle. I've never gotten site of famous battle though.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:15 pm

I've been playing some Medieval II lately and wanted something fresh. In the past I've always played as the factions on the west side of the map (Portugal, Scotland, England, France, Spain). Sorta wanted to play a Muslim faction, but didn't really care for the Turks or Egypt. Tried Russia, but I [censored] hate archer cav so [censored] much.

Eventually, decided to go with Sicily and went with a different strategy than normal. I built as many troops as possible in the first turn, loaded them all into boats, abandoned my two started cities, and sailed for the Holy Land. Decided to use the island of Nicosia as a guaranteed foothold. The Byzantines only had a couple units inside. After that I assaulted the mainland, taking Acre, Jerusalem, Gaza.

At this point I'm around fifteen thousand bucks in the red and the bulk of my army is moving on to Cairo and Egypt's southern territories. Acre and Jerusalem are flipping out because they are under christian rule so I strip the buildings down and sell off the parts (it's really fun to do this as an entire strategy: act like a horde, sack cities demolish their buildings, abandon them). I take all, but one of Egypt's territories and they want a ceasefire. I give it to them. In return, they will pay me five hundred each turn for five turns and they must reveal the location of their final city (which turns out to be Damascus).

I use the five turns that they are paying me to move my troops back to the north and pay down my debt (which was around thirty thou at this point). After turn five, I siege Egypt's last stronghold. With Egypt gone, I retake Acre and Jerusalem and finally end up back in the black. Now I'm bordering the Turks, who seem pretty cool about my whole mid-east invasion, and dealing with the Byzantines (who're still pissed about that Nicosia thing, I guess).
If the Man of the Hour is when you get to recruit the captain who led a battle, from my experience there's a chance of that happening when you really trounce the enemy in battle. I've never gotten site of famous battle though.

Aye, my light cav captain was adopted by my royal line in Rome. His unit and two groups of archers fought off a full flag of archers and phalanx spearmen. By the end, both of my archer units had retreated and I was down to ten horseman, but those phalanx troops just couldn't turn quick enough to stop my cav from slamming into their butts.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:42 pm

If the Man of the Hour is when you get to recruit the captain who led a battle, from my experience there's a chance of that happening when you really trounce the enemy in battle. I've never gotten site of famous battle though.


Famous Sites of Battle are achieved in a '300' type situation, or if you get a heroic victory.

@Above: I just tried the Moors out and they are extremely fun, I pushed spain and portugese into oblivion and I destroyed france after it becoming a Vassal, I have scotland as an ally and control half- if not most of europe.

Jihads are amazing tools, much like crusades.
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@Above: I just tried the Moors out and they are extremely fun, I pushed spain and portugese into oblivion and I destroyed france after it becoming a Vassal, I have scotland as an ally and control half- if not most of europe.

Jihads are amazing tools, much like crusades.

Yeah, I considered the Moors, but I really wanted to get out of the western half of the map. I was sick of taking the exact same territories every single game.

How many people use crusades to take cities in the Holy Land? I feel like I use them almost exclusively to further [censored] over excommunicated catholic factions.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:53 pm

Yeah, I considered the Moors, but I really wanted to get out of the western half of the map. I was sick of taking the exact same territories every single game.

How many people use crusades to take cities in the Holy Land? I feel like I use them almost exclusively to further [censored] over excommunicated catholic factions.

In a couple of my HRE games I used a crusade to take Jerusalem after I had wiped out milan and venice. Generally, I use the crusade to turn one of my already chivalric family members into a super chivalric Grand-Crusader. I also send a non-crusading Dread based family member with them. After the Crusade is over, Mr.Chivalrous gets recalled to be put where he's needed (Governor, a different front line, whatever), while Mr.Dread hangs around to [censored] and pillage the weaker settlements like Aleppo in order to earn him a few more points, then it's high taxes for the holy land.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:49 am

Is that when you have the option to recruit the captain as a general? If so, I've had that happen one or two times, but only after battles were the balance was mostky tipped towards the enemy (by mostly I mean alot).
If the Man of the Hour is when you get to recruit the captain who led a battle, from my experience there's a chance of that happening when you really trounce the enemy in battle. I've never gotten site of famous battle though.

:yes: Yes it's when you can adopt a captain into your faction, but I'm not sure which game were you couldn't have an adopted captain as a faction heir.

@Pokoyo: You're right about the odds, but sometimes I've fought a battle with almost equal forces of both sides and still get the event to be triggered.

Aye, my light cav captain was adopted by my royal line in Rome. His unit and two groups of archers fought off a full flag of archers and phalanx spearmen. By the end, both of my archer units had retreated and I was down to ten horseman, but those phalanx troops just couldn't turn quick enough to stop my cav from slamming into their butts.

That's quite possible for this event to occur. I take it that you was commanding your army in this battle by your self. Correct?

Btw... Nice tactic with your horseman. :clap:

I believe someone said in the first thread that he didn't know the battle event Site Of Famous Battle, but is there anyone who have the battle event called The Man Of The Hour occur yet?

Until today I only had the Site Of Famous Battle so far when the The Man Of The Hour suddenly appear. :whistling:



Famous Sites of Battle are achieved in a '300' type situation, or if you get a heroic victory.

You could also have the event even when you're having a clear victory though, but mostly it's when a battle is declared as a heroic victory yes. :)
It could be, but I think that event is only triggered when you commanding your troops in a battle afaik and not through an... auto resolve the battle ...feature that you can use if you like.

There is also another aspect I've notice with this event to occur and that's when you're in charge of your army, but also the battle it self is fought with some tactical actions during the battle or when you're outnumbered / defending the central plaza and still win (when defending a central plaza I think a draw is also is counted as a win?).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:49 pm

I think you can also get a "Famous Battle Site" when both armies have huge numbers. That's when I tend to find I get them placed on the map at least, regardless of what kind of victory you get (Heroic, Clear, etc).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:36 pm

So has anyone here played the http://www.moddb.com/mods/third-age-total-war mod? The mod itself is really well made so far, it looks and plays like it was made by a real team of professional developers IMO. I can't wait until the next release which will include custom settlements. :hehe: e.g. Minas Tirith, Helms Deep, Minas Morgul, etc


I played that, and it is indeed awesome. Once they release custom settlements, then I will reinstall the game and say goodbye to the outside world for a week or two :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:12 pm

I think you can also get a "Famous Battle Site" when both armies have huge numbers. That's when I tend to find I get them placed on the map at least, regardless of what kind of victory you get (Heroic, Clear, etc).

True. From my experience that's more common in the Barbarian Invasion than Rome TW it self, because of the horde armies there is in BI. But also your ability to have night battles which is awesome and it's so immersive every time I fought a night battle in the desert with clear weather. :)
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