Hi, noticed this. Running two VWD mods can't be good for your fps. Definitely drop 14. If your not using BAIN, you should probably reinstall RAEVWD to ensure its optimized _far.nif meshes are used. Also run TESLodGen.

Hope it helps. :foodndrink:

Thanks much for your help

I have done away with all VWD's and I am reinstalling QTP3- going to test it as regular first. Just want to list what I plan to do in case it is wrong.....
1. Install and activate QTP3 OMOD (11 parts)
2. install QTP3 patch 1.3
3 install UOP32 compatability patch for QTP3
4 (if needed) add the reduced or PYFFI Optimized QTP3 files


Any ideas on the Topal Bay glitch are appreciated too...

I remember a bug like that. Check your bashed patch and make sure that everything that needs to have cells imported is checked. In my case, the problem was with my ULs configuration I believe. I would use a cell grid map and check out my load order with TES4Edit, see where the overlaps are in that area.

Thanks everyone- I hope that this info becomes useful to others than just myself- OK! I fixed the water woes with the "water corruption"ini tweak with TweakOblivion. phew.....

Still Im getting that odd fps drop- what gets me is that Streamline doesnt help with the drop after going to a menu, it goes to 1, 2 fps or even locks up for a few.... I deactivated everything in OBMM's left hand side except the main esm and the unofficial patch and stiill had the fps drop-
must be QTP3, maybe OOO? Others on the right side are Quiet Feet, and Optimised Distant Land

Regarding QTP3- if I add the reduced or PYFFI'd files do I keep the original 11 part OMOD active?

Ive removed some mods and readded ones that I found dint hurt anything....here is my LO now......freshly BOSS'd around...

00 Oblivion.esm
01 GTAesgaard_2.esm
02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]
03 MD_Saddle_Master.esm
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
05 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
06 CM Partners.esm
07 HorseCombatMaster.esm
08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.10]
09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0D All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
0E All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
0F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
10 MIS.esp
11 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
12 Cities Alive At Night.esp
13 WindowLightingSystem.esp
14 aaaBorsBedrolls.esp
15 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
16 ImprovedSigns.esp
17 Living Economy.esp
18 Living Economy - Items.esp
19 PTRoamingNPCs.esp
1A MM24HourAlwaysOn.esp
1B DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1D DLCOrrery.esp
1E Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
1F DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
20 DLCVileLair.esp
21 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]
22 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
23 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
24 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
25 ExnemEyeCandy.esp
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
++ TFF_FantasyFigures_Base.esp
26 Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp
27 AlternativeLightArmors12.esp
28 RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.7]
29 Agicis.esp
2A AlphamaleStaff.esp
2B Daedric Chainsaw.esp
2C RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.7]
2D Hatred Rising.esp
2E JediLightsabersWithSheathFIX.esp
2F Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp
30 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
31 LOTR Weapons.esp
32 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
33 LevelerCheat.esp
34 Slof's Horses Base.esp
35 Slof's Extra Horses.esp
36 MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
37 DLCThievesDen.esp
38 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
39 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
3B OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]
3C AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp
3D AranMathi.esp
3E Benirus Lair.esp
3F CastleEltz.esp
40 GTAesgaard.esp
41 GTAesgaard_2.esp
42 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
43 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
44 EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]
++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp
45 bladesfactionmod.esp
46 GlenvarCastle.esp
47 Malevolent.esp
48 Naughty_Joana_01.esp
49 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4A DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
4B DLCfrostcrag.esp
4C Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp
4D Knights.esp
4E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
4F TOTF.esp
50 The Lost Spires.esp
51 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
52 All New House.esp
53 HoarfrostCastle.esp
54 My Island Palace.esp
55 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
56 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
57 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
58 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]
59 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
++ Short Grass V3.esp
5A Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp
5B Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp
5C Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
5D A Real nvdeSpell.esp
5E MidasSpells.esp
5F No psychic guards v1.2.esp
60 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
61 Theryon.esp
62 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
63 Slof's sixy Anims.esp
64 zzEstrus.esp
65 Get Wet.esp
66 Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp
++ Visually Enchanted Frost 3.esp
67 Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp
++ Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp
++ Visually Enchanted Fire 3.esp
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
68 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
69 Colored Map for Elsweyr 1.1.esp
6A Specular_Fix_1.1-2019.esp
6B FormID Finder4.esp
6C Streamline 3.1.esp

Please, add spoiler tags to your load list. If you just paste the list here after using the List Mods function, Bash takes care of the copying and tags for you. What is the "original 11 part"?

By original 11 part I mean the Original QTP3 OMOD which came in 11 parts.....http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18498


Can I deactivate these parts after adding the reduced or optimised textures?

For QTP3 reduced, read the ReadMe. You definitely cannot drop the original just for the optimized meshes. You would be missing the textures...

OK, Im at a loss- I cant play if every time I go to my inventory, or pick a lock, or change a spell I drop to 2-3 fps. The drop eventually passes after about 20 seconds, but that is a lifetime during combat......
Seems like Ive check everything, I just looked all over for patches or fixes for my UI- I have DarkUId Darn 1.6. I thought it must be the UI since the fps only drops after going to a menu.


I was told to put spoiler tags with my load order- ummm, I dont know what that is Im sorry....