If you know where, but not who, then you destroy the where because who is bound to go with it.

hmm... that's a good one... I'll just except that as my explanation and leave the topic..
otherwise I'm getting confused again

Maybe they knew Mythic Dawn Assassins wouldn't work as well as say, a full scale Daedric invasion. (Which didn't work either)

I'm telling you, it was a mistake on the dev's part, they said something then gave evidence which contradicts it by mistake.

I'm starting to wonder if I've been playing the same Oblivion as anyone else.

Take into account:

Item A - The player tells Martin that the Daedra are there for him.

Item B - The Daedra successfull siege the castle and slaughter everyone in it -- including the count. Yet, the chapel is still standing.

Item C - When you first enter Kvatch, the place is overrun by Daedra, and there's no good reason they shouldn't have besieged the chapel. Take into account the Aurorans during KotN.

Item D - There was a time when Martin dabbled in Daedra worship. Just a thought.

It's made quite apparent that Mehrunes Dagon knows Martin is there, and we can only guess why. My guess would be spies. After all, you end up killing some spies outside Cloud Ruler Temple, and it's made clear that's why they know Martin is now there. The captain of Bruma's guard even says he would have never expected Jearl to be a Mythic Dawn Agent, so it's entirely plausible that there could have been some unsuspect spies that knew about the situation.

I would also go as far as to say that it is no coincidence that Martin was a priest at the temple of Akatosh.

It could be related to Martin's status as a member of the dragonblood.

Because hes the Deadric Prince of Destruction. He was probobly strollign through Cyrodil when he saw Kvatch,

"OO! A town! I could go destroy it!"

Read the first page or better yet THE FIRST POST you would realize then main problem in your posts, go ahead read it, i won't spoil it, one major point you do make Aphotic, they didn't do much to the chapel besides rip the top off, considering how they didn't even go in the chapel this completely dismisses the chapel theory, so for the new people who don't read posts and haven't read my posts i'll say it again FOR THE THIRD TIME! It was a mistake on the dev's part, they tried to say something which would compel the player to find Jauffre (after all what would be better than "if you want to find out what the hell is going on and WTF am i talking about then go to JAUFFRE since he is the only person IN THE WORLD who knows." See the problem with what they said, i know it's not his exact words, but it amounts to the same thing, it was very compelling for the first-time player since they haven't a clue whats going on and thats the only person who you could see, but the problem is what they said, he is the only person who knows, so how does Dagon know? If we accept what Uriel says then the only possible lore-friendly explanation on the attack on Kvatch was coincidence, like i said (I REPEAT FOR THE THIRD TIME!!!) it was mistake on the dev's part, Martin was intended to be the target of Kvatch's attack, Jauffre really was the only person that knew of Martin's existence, if you want a lore-friendly answer we can either say Martin was the target, this would mean that somewhere along the lines of his birth to the oblivion invasion the mythic dawn or MD learned of Martin's existence bliviongate: (I presume it was a bit before the initial attack on the emperors sons as that would fit in perfectly with the events that came after). NOW FOR (HOPEFULLY) THE FINAL TIME, IT WAS A BLOOMIN' MISTAKE BY THE BLOOMIN' DEVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: DID ALL OF YOU LISTEN THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR DID I NOT USE ENOUGH EMOTES TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION :flame: :swear: :chaos: :nuke:

Hmmm yeah never thought about that. The Mythic Dawn managed to steal the Amulet of Kings (which was also hidden) with little effort. Why couldn't they have just poked Martin in the chest a few times with a sword?

You, sir, win a cake today. :cake:

Oh yeah, and the answer is because the plot said so, duh.

YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY SOMEBODY WHO GETS IT!!! A TOAST TO THE WORST LISTENERS AND READERS ON THE FORUM :foodndrink: now for a dance :intergalactic:

Ok this may sound a bit insane but what if he wanted to be beaten this time? I mean think about it Martin Septim the last Septim of the Dragon Blood has died and there is no chance of the Dragon Fires being lit again. Mehrunes Dagon is still immortal and has returned to Oblivion to mend his wounds.

So think on this what the hell is there to stop Lord Dagon from returning to Cyrodil when he has recuperated from the battle from the avatar of Akatosh when there is no longer a living Septim left to keep the Dragon Fires burning?

Absolutely nothing!!! So I am basically introducing the thought that Lord Dagon attacked Kvatch on purpose to draw Martin Septim from hiding

You were wrong the moment you said this. I'd personally have extreme trouble believing this.

A god whose sphere and sole purpose is to destroy existence would not have any intention of failing.

Because the Martin/Akatosh Statue evidently performs the same role as the Amulet and Dragonfires did; with the additional benefit that it doesn't have to be re-applied every time an emperor kicks it.

Breaking and entering? In a CHAPEL?! You, sir, are out of your mind. They'd have every single Imperial Guard in Cyrodiil after them!

I figure that Daedra/Mythic Dawn would have their means. As it is, they did assassinate all other members of the family, and it is likely the Mythic Dawn/Dagon would be privy to the affairs of the King, regardless of how "secret" they are to us.

As the god of change and revolution, among other things, he could have already succeeded. Regardless of if he can return to Tamriel, his goal was to throw the empire off, and nothing does this more than wiping out the leadership at the highest level.

I figure that he wasn't after the destruction of the empire as a whole, as much as he may have had a personal vendetta against the Dragonblood.

I also highly doubt that he wasn't privy to the location of Martin or his importance, although it was probably for gameplay that the church wasn't destroyed.

sorry double post

Like someone has already said, it was simply a plot device.

But the impression it gave me when I played was that Dagon could sense that one of the DragonBlood was still alive somewhere in Kvatch. The daedric prince couldn't hone it down any further than that and so launched an attack on the town to wipe out the entire population. Martin was also a priest of Akatosh, so the Nine Divines may have thwarted Dagon's attempt to pinpoint him more exactly.
I guess it comes down to how attuned are Daedric Princes to the presence of the Divine? He may sense Martin's DragonBlood after all the other heirs are slain --i.e. still one remains-- but only in a very vague sort of way.
Its a pretty common device in myth--Cronus searches high and low for the infant Zeus, who is destined to overthrow him, but cannot find him because another god thwarts his omnipotence with a few tricks.

Its sort of a running joke between father and son to level Kvatch. This time Dagon helped... by providing the hero his first chance to be heroic.

This manner of post can earn a suspension for flaming. I'm going to close this thread and make an example of it rather than suspend everybody who knew better than to make posts like that.