If anyone would care to take a look, I'd appreciate it. : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:13 pm

I have a fairly large mod list with all the usual mods.

Some mod script is changing the iTrainingSkills gamesetting and I haven't found the culprit yet.
I've deactivated the mods, Realistic Leveling and Progress, both with ini's that have the gamesetting in it for testing as well as setting the ini to 20.
I have the Bashed Patch tweak set to 20.
But I can only train 6 times. Not the default of 5, but 6.
TES4Edit shows only the Bashed Patched with the formid for itrainingskills, so it must be changed by a script.

Is there any way to determine which one? (I don't think so, but I'm asking anyway).

Here is my current load order - maybe someone will know which mod is changing it.
Yeah, I know I can change it manually via the console, but that's not the point.

Spoiler

[code]Masters for: Streamsave_7.ess
00 Oblivion.esm
01 GTAesgaard_2.esm
02 Windfall.esm [Version 1.0]
03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]
04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
09 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm [Version 1.3]
0A TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0B FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0C Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0D Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0E Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
0F Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.9]
10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
13 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
14 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
15 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
16 Fran Armor Add-on.esp
17 NaturalHabitat.esp
18 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
19 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
1A All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
++ Diverse Voices.esp [Version 0.3Modified]
1B Storms & Sound.esp [Version 3.0OBSE]
1C WindowLightingSystem.esp
++ Brighter_Torches.esp
1D CNRP DB for OOO.esp [Version 1.0]
1E Chapel Tithe.esp
1F DS Time Manager.esp [Version 1.1]
20 Elys - Yuda The Elder Trainer.esp
21 New Potions by Tealpanda.esp [Version 1.8]
22 Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
23 Tc2rPoisonsOfNamira.esp [Version 1.2]
24 Willful Resistance.esp [Version 4.0]
25 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 3.4.3]
26 Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]
27 FF_Real_Thirst.esp [Version 1.2Cleaned]
28 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.5.2]
29 Maps!.esp [Version Cleaned]
2A HotkeyCasting.esp [Version 3.5]
2B DLCHorseArmor.esp [Version UOMPmerged]
2C DLCOrrery.esp [Version UOMPmerged]
2D DLCVileLair.esp [Version UOMPmerged]
2E DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [Version UOMPmerged]
2F DLCSpellTomes.esp [Version UOMPmerged]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
30 ClassyClothingCompendium.esp [Version 1.0]
31 Francesco's Mage Equipment.esp
32 XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
33 DLCThievesDen.esp [Version UOMPMerged]
34 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp [Version 1.4]
35 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
36 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
37 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp [Version 1.0]
38 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [Version 1.1]
39 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3A Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp [Version 3]
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3B Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.085bEV]
3C FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
3D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp [Version 0.5]
3E OOO SI Hunger Replacer.esp [Version 1]
** OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
3F OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
40 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
41 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
43 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
44 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
45 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
46 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
47 Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
48 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
49 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]
4B TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
4C TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
4D ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4E kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp [Version 2]
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4F FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
50 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
** FineWeapons for OOO.esp
** Fransfemale.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
51 Daggerfall NPCs.esp
++ Daggerfall NPCs - MMM Patch.esp
52 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
53 CDEP-UnderpallCave.esp
54 GTAesgaard_2.esp [Version Merged]
55 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.01]
56 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2]
57 Windfall.esp [Version 1.0]
58 za_bankmod.esp
59 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
5A Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp [Version 1.1]
** Battlehorn_mobs.esp [Version Merged]
5B DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version UOMPmerged]
5C Knights.esp [Version CUOMPmerged]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
5D SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.21]
5E MoreSuburbLife.esp [Version 1.0]
5F The Lost Spires.esp [Version 14DelayedQuest]
60 Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp [Version 1.4]
61 Blood&Mud.esp
62 Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 1.0]
63 The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp [Version 1.3]
64 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
65 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]
66 FCOM_DulanCult.esp [Version 0.9.9]
67 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp [Version 1.3]
++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]
68 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
++ ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp
69 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.6]
6A bartholm.esp [Version 7.0]
++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]
6B Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.1Merged]
6C Automatic Difficulty Increaser.esp
6D Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.2]
6E DS Less Predictable Respawn.esp [Version 1.1]
6F EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
70 Actors Have Torches.esp [Version Merged]
71 LG's Unique Enemies.esp
72 Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [Version 1.2]
73 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]
74 RenCorpseMod.esp [Version 1.0]
75 Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp [Version 1.0]
76 RTSWelkyndClstrTreasure.esp [Version 2.0]
77 SecretsoftheAyleidsClosure.esp [Version 1.1]
78 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
79 Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp
7A Storms & Sound - Bartholm.esp
7B Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.esp
7C Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
7D The Adventurer's Guide.esp [Version 1.1]
7E Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 1.0]
7F More Realistic Encumbrance with Fatigue.esp [Version 1.0]
80 ANB_Dynamic_Regen.esp [Version 2.2]
81 RealisticForceAndMagicForceMedium.esp [Version 1.0]
82 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.4.2]
83 TelekineticDamage.esp [Version 0.6]
84 Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2]
85 AgarVariedSpellSounds_SupremeMagicka.esp
86 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]
87 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.70]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
88 MidasSpells.esp [Version 995A]
89 AudaciousMagery.esp [Version 1.09]
8A Poison Arrows.esp [Version 0.7]
8B Potion Mixer.esp [Version 1.0Merged]
8C Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp [Version 1.1]
8D Essence Extracter.esp
8E EnchantmentRestore.esp [Version 1.9]
++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp [Version 1.9]
8F StealthOverhaul, Cobl.esp [Version 1.2]
90 ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp [Version 1.2]
91 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
92 Denock Arrows.esp [Version 1.0]
93 kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp
94 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp
95 Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp
96 Duke Patricks - Smash of the Titans.esp [Version 2.1]
97 CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp [Version 2.0]
98 IDFQR, Cobl.esp [Version 1.4]
99 OOO-Intelligence Overhaul BJ.esp [Version 1.0]
9A Progress.esp [Version 2.0]
9B RealisticLeveling.esp
9C Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp [Version 2.0Shield]
9D Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp [Version 3.0]
9E Let there be Darkness All Merge.esp [Version Merged]
++ BulkyNord.esp [Version 1.0]
++ BulkyOrcs.esp [Version 1.0]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++ Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
9F 1em_Vilja.esp
A0 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
A1 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
A2 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
A3 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
A4 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
A5 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]
++ bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp [Version 0.9]
A6 MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp [Version 1.2]
** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
A7 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
++ Real Lava 1.3.esp [Version 1.3]
++ Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp
A8 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1]
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
A9 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
AA Streamline 3.1.esp

Thanks

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:26 pm

Use http://www.inforapid.de/html/srdownload.htm to serach for the term "iTrainingSkills" in all *.esp files in the Oblivion/Data folder.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:06 pm

Well the culprits are yuda and the skill level max enhancers.

That is what I'd try deactivating and rebashing without.

I've used InfoRapid Search before - kinda a learning curve to it. Took a few tries to get meaningful search results.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:15 am

Use http://www.inforapid.de/html/srdownload.htm to serach for the term "iTrainingSkills" in all *.esp files in the Oblivion/Data folder.

Thanks. Found in 13 seconds: OOO - Intelligence Overhaul BJ.esp

Now to find the script that changes it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:50 pm

Now to find the script that changes it.

That is very easy when you know the right esp/esm file. Just open the file in any standard text editor (even Notepad works), and make a normal text search there. The scripts are stored as normal text, and all scripts start with ScriptName (or scn) .

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:08 pm

That is very easy when you know the right esp/esm file. Just open the file in any standard text editor (even Notepad works), and make a normal text search there. The scripts are stored as normal text, and all scripts start with ScriptName (or scn) .

Thanks for the tip. But when I posted previously, I didn't realize that S&R showed where the search term is. In this case, it show the actual script. So opening the CS and commenting out the offending lnes was done in a matter of minutes.