What are Draugr? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:04 am

Where do Draugr come from? In Bloodmoon they run around in miniskirts and are really skinny but the description is 'undead Nords'. Is there more background on them?

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:38 pm

Not that I've seen. Probably just undead with unique properties born of the cold environment. Dead things decay at different rates and in different ways depending on the temperature and the dryness of the air, assuming its even exposed to air.

Come to think of it, now I'm expecting Black Marsh to have some kind of special bog undead. I can't remember the details, but peat bogs do something strange to the decay process.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:28 pm

"Once, they were warriors much like the Skaal. Trapped and hungry on this island, they feasted on the flesh of their fallen comrades, which is a crime against nature. The All-Maker cursed them with undeath, forever doomed to walk the land in search of more of the flesh of man to consume." - http://www.imperial-library.info/tsomw/bm_6.shtml

On the same page it's said by Aesliip that he made himself a Draugr.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:02 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draugr

Though the description of the TES ones seem to more resemble Wendigo.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:53 pm

"Once, they were warriors much like the Skaal. Trapped and hungry on this island, they feasted on the flesh of their fallen comrades, which is a crime against nature. The All-Maker cursed them with undeath, forever doomed to walk the land in search of more of the flesh of man to consume." - http://www.imperial-library.info/tsomw/bm_6.shtml

On the same page it's said by Aesliip that he made himself a Draugr.

It makes him sound like a Nord version of a lich.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:09 am

my guess is that they are a race on their own, which would sort of explain the passage proweler gave

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

As one NPC in Bloodmoon put it "An angry nord is already bad bews. An angry, undead cannibal nord... I don't even want to think about it". I've certainly the quote wrong, but that's idea.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:32 pm

yea there just undead nords who commited crimes against nature and were punished, like what proweler said

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:13 am

As one NPC in Bloodmoon put it "An angry nord is already bad bews. An angry, undead cannibal nord... I don't even want to think about it". I've certainly the quote wrong, but that's idea.

Close, I think you're meshing these two quotes:

-"Imagine an angry Nord. Now imagine a dead angry Nord with a taste for human flesh. Get the picture?"
-"Ugh. And I thought the live Nords were bad. The dead ones are even worse, especially when they don't want to stay dead."

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:51 pm

So can we assume the Draugr were not totally exterminated? Can new Draugr occur? Is the curse still in effect? Can Draugr occur off the island?

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:06 pm

So can we assume the Draugr were not totally exterminated? Can new Draugr occur? Is the curse still in effect? Can Draugr occur off the island?

I don't know, but I suppose we could starve a dozen Nords on some island and see what happens when they eat each other. :whistle:

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:49 am

Could they be Nord mummies?

IIRC you find tar on their bodies.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:29 pm

I don't like to buy the Korst Windeye interpretation - which I think influences all others. I hate the Skaal so much. All-Maker my foot! Then why could Aeslip turn himself into one? I think they are undead Nords through some other means. Maybe not even Nords. They certainly don't seem to favour Nord equipment. Would their weapons have decayed before them? Hardly. I think they're something else and that Korst Windeye feeds you and everyone else some crap in order to perpetuate the lame Skaal religion.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:56 pm

I think they're something else and that Korst Windeye feeds you and everyone else some crap in order to perpetuate the lame Skaal religion.

All the races have different ideas about the nature of the gods and the creation of the universe. The Skaal's ideas are just as ridicilous/right/unplausible/correct as the others. The Skaa'ls god the All-maker and it;s anthithesis the Adversary/Greedy Man
smell like Anu/Padomay, Anuiel/Sithis/ Akatosh/Lorkhan, Light/Darkness, Order/ Chaos, Stasis/ Change.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:21 pm

Didn't MK mention the Greedy Man in one of his unofficial forum lore posts? In relation to Akatosh and Dagon?

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:01 pm

Didn't MK mention the Greedy Man in one of his unofficial forum lore posts? In relation to Akatosh and Dagon?

Songs of the Aldudagga, though it's kinda obvious who the Greedyman is from Aevar Stone Singer.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:33 pm

Songs of the Aldudagga, though it's kinda obvious who the Greedyman is from Aevar Stone Singer.

Um... who's the Greedy Man, then? I recently re-read that story, and he sounds like Sheogorath... but... :unsure:

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:42 am

Um... who's the Greedy Man, then? I recently re-read that story, and he sounds like Sheogorath... but... :unsure:

Shor

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:22 pm

It makes him sound like a Nord version of a lich.

He seemed alot more sentient than a lich, but other than that yea.

Could they be Nord mummies?

IIRC you find tar on their bodies.

They don't have any wrappings though.

:turtle:

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:34 am

Could they be Nord mummies?

IIRC you find tar on their bodies.

It looks to me that their state is a result of them being in a state between life and death. Or it could be the result of their undead bodies metabolizing the flesh that they devour.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:16 am

I always thought the flesh looked like a seriously bad case of frostbite