Bow Upverted use?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:57 pm

It seems to me that the Arrow loaded on the Bow , showed in the video , is on the wrong side , and should be loaded on the right side of the bow , pass over the finger and aim with that not pass over the hand back .... Am I right or I am wrong ? I am not a Expert about archery but from the few lessons I remember and the natural feel of using a bow I feel this is the wrong side ....
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Kara Payne
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:46 pm

I ain't an expert either, but i have used the bow quite a lot.

From what is saw it was on the left side. He hold the bow a little bit sideways here, so the arrow can rest on the hand and the bow, more accuracy that way i guess.

Edit: you should remove "i don't care" from the answers. You can't insinuate such things, maybe the have a valid reason
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:32 pm

Ok I changed the poll ....
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cheryl wright
 
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:14 am

ive looked at some pics of people holding bows and it appears bethesda had it right in the trailer
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:41 pm

Indeed but I also seen pictures of people using on the other side , may be is just a matter of Use?
But I changed my vote to no ....
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Robert Jackson
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:31 am

I am an archer, and the arrow is on the right side. It is on the left because you need to be able to look over the arrow in order to aim. If you have it on the other side, you can't aim properly, as you then need to look between the bow and the string (as your eye is not in the line of the arrow)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:36 pm

You have a point OP :)

I think the arrow should be on the right side, not the left. That is, if the character is aiming tall and holding the bow straight, this way you get the ultimate balance, grip and power.

Although, if you see closely the character leans the bow a bit on the right side, thus making the arrow grip steadier and stronger while holding the arrow on the left side. There are more support points for the arrow. If he holds the arrow on the right he might struggle with grip because there's no holding point to support, he needs to push it against the bow - but this is considering we still look him holding the bow with the slight lean to the right.

I other word to fix it, they need to change the stance of shooting - either straighten the bow or change the style of holding/shooting with it. But it's not that big of a deal actually ;)

Now i am no expert, i just use my logic that's all ;)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:27 pm

It seemed fine to me. There are different archery styles, but a right handed person would use a bow like that for aiming purposes, just as a left-handed person would put the arrow on the other side. When pulling back the string with your right hand, having the arrow on the left side of the bow allows you to use the shaft to take aim. If it were on the other side, you would have to hold the bow at a bit of an unatural angle, which would reduce your draw distance and hence the power of the shot. Your shoulder would get in the way, try it. That's how it's done in the west, at least.

Japanese archery puts the arrow on the other side, but notice how they point the index finger along the arrow shaft to aim instead.

Western style:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-19365175/stock-photo-archer-beauty-girl-plays-arrow-bow-shooting-sport-stay-side-view-position-concentration.html



Eastern style:
http://taintedink.com/blog/2009/05/31/hit-the-heart/
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:28 am

Arrow is on the right (aka left) side of the bow but I'm annoyed about how the character holds the bow (in Oblivion, what video are you talking about?) horizontally ( -- ) or vertically ( | ) when most people keep the bow little skewed ( / ).
They should correct that mistake.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:48 am

Depends to what side you hold it, it doesn't really matter as long as the side you have the arrow on is the one "higher" than the other side.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:58 pm

Don't see reason to change it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:20 pm

Well, it probably depends if your left r right-handed, because whenever I use a bow IRL (just shooting at targets I swear) I hold it differently to most people, and I'm left handed.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:04 pm

used to shoot with bow and arrow before my bow got broken :sad:
i can tell yo that the aiming you saw in the video was indeed correct. resting the arrow ont the left side(assuming you are righthanded) will allow you to aim down the arrow mor affeiciently, but if you think its better to it another way then thats fine ^_^
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:07 pm

Arrow is on the right (aka left) side of the bow but I'm annoyed about how the character holds the bow (in Oblivion, what video are you talking about?) horizontally ( -- ) or vertically ( | ) when most people keep the bow little skewed ( / ).
They should correct that mistake.

If you switch to holding it horizontal while sneaking as in Oblivion you have to have the arrow on the left side or it will fall out.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:54 am

Beth did it correctly, it seems that just some people want to make a big deal about something that was clearly their fault for making the problem. In this case, Prometheus_ts is terribly wrong.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:54 pm

I own several bows, both recurve and compound, and the arrow rest on my right-handed bows is on the left side, similar to the trailer. I am by no means an excellent archer, but having used longbows, with no defined arrow rest, I drew the bow like in the trailer, as it felt natural and familiar.

Also just look at pictures and youtube videos of people (like professionals at the Olympics), and how they draw.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:56 pm

I've seen a lot of archery use and i've seen plenty of people putting the arrow on either side. But in the trailer, it still looks good, so to me I don't really care what side it's on.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:41 pm

It seemed fine to me. There are different archery styles, but a right handed person would use a bow like that for aiming purposes, just as a left-handed person would put the arrow on the other side. When pulling back the string with your right hand, having the arrow on the left side of the bow allows you to use the shaft to take aim. If it were on the other side, you would have to hold the bow at a bit of an unatural angle, which would reduce your draw distance and hence the power of the shot. Your shoulder would get in the way, try it. That's how it's done in the west, at least.

Japanese archery puts the arrow on the other side, but notice how they point the index finger along the arrow shaft to aim instead.

Western style:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-19365175/stock-photo-archer-beauty-girl-plays-arrow-bow-shooting-sport-stay-side-view-position-concentration.html



Eastern style:
http://taintedink.com/blog/2009/05/31/hit-the-heart/


I believe both cultures have people who teach either methods of holding it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:43 pm

Bethesda has it correct. It is done this way for aiming purposes.
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Kelly James
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:30 pm

Arrow position is correct indeed.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:29 pm

I think it is the right position and some peeps who posted before me said some good reasons for it too. Ofc if he would have been holding bow with the other hand then the arrow should be on the other side.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Beth did it correctly, it seems that just some people want to make a big deal about something that was clearly their fault for making the problem. In this case, Prometheus_ts is terribly wrong.

Well thats an unfair thing to say, because I too when using a bow have the arrow pass on the right side over my thumb.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:18 am

Yup, arrow position is right. Right-handed people do it different from left-handed.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:49 am

It seemed fine to me. There are different archery styles, but a right handed person would use a bow like that for aiming purposes, just as a left-handed person would put the arrow on the other side. When pulling back the string with your right hand, having the arrow on the left side of the bow allows you to use the shaft to take aim. If it were on the other side, you would have to hold the bow at a bit of an unatural angle, which would reduce your draw distance and hence the power of the shot. Your shoulder would get in the way, try it. That's how it's done in the west, at least.

Japanese archery puts the arrow on the other side, but notice how they point the index finger along the arrow shaft to aim instead.

Western style:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-19365175/stock-photo-archer-beauty-girl-plays-arrow-bow-shooting-sport-stay-side-view-position-concentration.html



Eastern style:
http://taintedink.com/blog/2009/05/31/hit-the-heart/

Just adding that another important part is that it's easier to nock the arrow this way: the arrow will rest aganst the bow when nocked and drawn. IF it's on te other side, the arrow would easily slip off of what would be the "bottom" side.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:51 pm

I think it was a valid thought from the OP and its what I thought after watching the trailer. I have had two archery lessons in my life (both years apart I'm not claiming in depth knowledge) and I was taught to shoot differently to the in game style on both occasions. However its clear from the other posts in the thread that Bethesda have it correct. I also did a quick bit of on-line research and I can see that Beth's way is considered the best due to superior aim and flexibility. However I wouldn't have looked it up if I hadn't read this thread and it would have bugged me in the back of my mind (thinking that Beth had it wrong). So I think its a good thread, it raised an issue made me think about it and I've come out of it knowing a little more.

Edit: spelling
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