I've recently just read the Fall of the Snow Prince again in Oblivion (read it in Bloodmoon, I think, or maybe it was in Oblivion a long time ago) and it made me think about the importance of Stalhrim to the Nords.

Of course, Stalhrim is used by the Nords to bury their dead, (so how did the Draugrs come about?) and in Bloodmoon, it could be mined to forge/get powerful equipment, with the help of NPCs of course.

I'm wondering if Stalhrim will be a useful resource in Skyrim. It should most probably make a return, since it's very Nordic, but hopefully we will still be able to use it to create equipment, either by ourselves or via NPCs. Or perhaps it be considered a crime to even possess Stalhrim as it could be interpreted as the disturbing of Nordic tombs?

Also, if there is no medium armour in Skyrim, would Stalhrim armour, if any, be Heavy or Light? Personally I hope if such a thing happens we can craft two different variants, heavy and light, of Stalhrim armour.

On a side note, where does Stalhrim come from, before it's used to bury the Nordic dead?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim

This page doesn't answer any of my questions, and I read this page before I posted this thread. :mellow:

I think that stahlrim would fall under the category of light armour. It feels more appropriate that some sort of magic ice is light, just as the glass armour.

Btw, I truly hate to be that guy, but it's called stahlrim, not stalhrim. Normally I wouldn't point out a spelling mistake, but you just used the word so many times... :grad:

Edit: Regarding draugrs: I don't see any connection between stahlrim and draugrs, but this might still answer your question. Yes, nords are buried in stahlrim, but obviously not all nords, since that would be way too expensive and perhaps also because they needed to die in battle or something similar. Draugrs are simply deceased humans who guard their tombs against grave robbers and such. I think :tongue: Also, draugrs are based from Nordic mythology, whereas stahlrim is a completely fictional.

True, but according to the UESP Wiki one piece of raw stahlrim weighs 5 units of whatever the weight unit is for Morrowind, and I thought that was not very light.

Sorry about the spelling mistake, I followed the spelling in the UESPWiki, and IIRC it was also spelled stalhrim in the Fall of the Snow Prince.

EDIT: Thanks for the clarification about the Draugrs, I had though all Nord dead who managed to get buried in barrows were buried in Stahlrim, and the Draugrs dug themselves out. :spotted owl:

Well... 5 pounds (I suppose it's pounds?) of weight doesn't tell us all too much about what kind of armour it is. For instance: Glass weighed 2 pounds, which is very light. Ebony weighed 10 pounds and this also makes sense, since ebony is heavy. However, adamantium, which is a medium armour, weighed 50 pounds! I suppose it's all about what happens to the material after you process it, etc.

EDIT: Might as well reply to your reply regarding draugrs Burying people in Stahlrim would probably be an effective way to keep the deceased from becoming a draugr, or at least to roam around in his tomb. In Scandinavia several different methods of keeping people from becoming draugrs where used, in Sweden some people impaled the dead so that they wouldn't be able to move. I suppose that stahlrim is equivalent to that ^_^

I suppose so, but the lump of raw stahlrim compared to the Ice Armour in Bloodmoon doesn't look as though the stahlrim has gone through any kind of refinement. Then again, it is raw stahlrim, so something must have happened to it before it became the armour. :unsure2:

By the way, how exactly is that icy material spelt, really? The Fall of the Snow Prince spells it as Stalhrim as well, where does it say Stahlrim?

Hmm, it looks like you might actually be right. My most sincere apologies. I thought it was called stahlrim because: 1. It looks right 2. I googled stahlrim and got quite a lot of results.

I see, stahlrim looks right to me as well. :tongue:

Any ideas on how the Nords treat people who take Stalhrim from their Barrows? I'm guessing it should be seen as an act of grave robbing and should be an offence, but then that would make Stalhrim armour the Indoril Armour of Skyrim.

Robbing stalhrim (gonna have to start spell it like you now) from graves would obviously be a grave offence and most likely be punished by death. But stalhrim must be mined from somewhere else, I mean, how weird would it be if stalhrim would only naturally exist in tombs? :tongue: Therefore it shouldn't be any problem to obtain raw stalhrim, or stalhrim weapons and armour the legal way. It might be quite expensive though.