since theyve updated their site i cant seem to find the download pages for arena and daggerfall(i think that they were the two that they had for free download) anyone know how to still get them, or im i just screwed

of, and just so you know, i checked and the orginal pages are 404

Arena:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Files

Daggerfall:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

Both already have DOSBox, so it is really just install, plug and play

Sometimes when you exit t he game you go to the, errr, ye Ancient DOS black screen, just type exit hit Enter and u r done

Thanks for the links, thats exactly what i needed