Headless Bruma Statue? : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:52 pm

So, I've run into this weird problem.
I'd just completed the Defense of Bruma and went to go check out my statue,
but it appears to be headless.

I dunno why.

I am using the TGND body and all my gear shows up there, but my head is gone.

I reloaded a save and tried it again, zoning into Bruma, this time with nothing equiped. And my hands/feet/head were missing.

When I have gloves and boots on, they show up just fine on the statue.

I tried buying a hood and equiping it before zoning in, but my head is still gone -- and the hood doesn't show either.

Anyone else have this problem?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9522/tlikemods.jpg

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:31 am

Odd, have your tried wearing a full-face helm?

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:19 pm

Yeah, when I wear my Helmet of the Crusader (from Knights of the Nine), it shows up like normal.

Also, when I wear the full set of Crusader gear, my statue is in full color. But that's a whole different thing that I don't care about.

Why won't the statue show my head?
I don't use any weird face or hair mods or anything. I created my character before I implemented mods. Just a vanilla Wood Elf.

I use a different hair texture. Removed it from my data folder, and no effect.
I also use an eyelash mod -- disabled and still no change.

The mod list I'm using is here:
Nothing really that I can imagine that would affect the statue.

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Knights.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
TGND.esp
TGND_SI.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Silent Player Voice.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
Get Wet - just droplets.esp
P1DseeYouSleep.esp
P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp
BravilBridgeCottage.esp
RoxeyCottage.esp
AleswellHomeQuest.esp
FishermansCottage.esp
RogueLeather.esp

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:24 am

I have only done the MQ so far once during all these years so what do I know, but my guess would be that as TGND uses an esp the game gets confused with paths because of that. You could check this by temporarily loading the game w/o TGND before the statue is created. Also, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3428 seems like useful mod when having issues with the statue.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:17 am

I don't get it.

Disabling the TGND esp did not affect my statue either, nor did the Update My Statue mod.

I've got a saved game in Bruma straight after the battle. I go up to Martin in Cloud Ruler Temple and then fast travel back to Bruma and my statue appears.

So far, the only way I can get my character's head to appear is if I am wearing a full helmet that completely replaces my head.
It svcks.

I don't want a statue of a bucket-head.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 pm

Well, I've identified the culprit.

I disabled all my mods and loaded up my auto-save next to my statue and my head was where it should have been.

I started activating mods a couple at a time and kept loading up that same save until I found out which one of my mods removed my statue's head.

The offending mod is:

P1DseeYouSleep.esp
P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp

With all my other mods turned on and these turned off, my statue has her head. But when I activate this mod, the head is gone.

But I don't understand why.
Really would like a solution to this, too, as I enjoy this mod.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:58 pm

Alright, I think I've figured it out.

For future reference, and for reasons beyond my understanding, taking out the "(-) Helm" from your Sleepwear Configuration bag and putting it into your inventory seems to let your statue have a head.
After that, you can put it back into the Sleepwear Configuration bag and as long as you leave your statue alone, like if you're using "Update my Statue", nothing will happen to it.