Helljoint Bug : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:46 pm

Hello @ll,

my Oblivion modded got a Helljoint Bug.
Everytime my Pc gets this disease the Agility is drained -5 (as vanilla),
but Speed gets empowered by +61 !!
When I peek at the active effects tab (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/screenshot139bf.jpg/ ),
it tells me that agility is drained by 5 but Speed by 61,
but the PC main skill tab actually shows agility -5 and speed+61!! (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/screenshot140v.jpg/)

Ok, I could use UOP after getting rid of the helljoint disease, and normalize my skill values,
but to be honest, I really would like to know if this error wasnt solved by a patch,
because somebody should have this bug too. :shrug:

(...just installed the amazin progress mod, but it didnt solve the bug, it must be somewhere between those fcom mods)
(I already noticed the bug was there before i did install warcry & fran & fcom, leaves mmm, and ooo)

anyway here is my complete mod list and I do appreciate any help to track this bug, thank you!

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  You Are Here.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  BetterMusicSystem.esm0D  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0E  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0F  Lattamerv3.esm10  HorseCombatMaster.esm11  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp12  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]13  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]14  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp15  DLCShiveringIsles.esp16  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp17  Better Cities .esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FranOBSEConfig.esp  [Version 0.5]1E  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1F  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]22  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]23  Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp24  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp25  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]26  WindowLightingSystem.esp27  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.3]28  AliveWaters.esp29  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp2A  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp2B  BookTrackerOBSE.esp2C  ImprovedSigns.esp2D  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp2E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.4.2]2F  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp30  sr_super_hotkeys.esp31  DLCHorseArmor.esp32  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]33  DLCOrrery.esp34  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp35  DLCVileLair.esp36  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]37  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp38  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp39  DLCSpellTomes.esp3A  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp++  HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp3B  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp**  Armamentium female.esp3C  DLCThievesDen.esp3D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp3F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]40  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]41  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]42  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp43  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]44  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]45  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]46  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]47  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]48  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]49  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]54  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]56  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]57  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]58  Fransfemale.esp++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp59  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]5A  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]5B  JolardHome.esp5C  Scribe Supplies.esp5D  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp5E  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp5F  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]60  DLCfrostcrag.esp61  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]62  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp63  Knights.esp64  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp++  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp65  Blood&Mud.esp66  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp67  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp68  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]69  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6A  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6B  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]6C  xulTheHeath.esp6D  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp6E  XulEntiusGorge.esp6F  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]70  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]71  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp72  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.3]73  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp74  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]75  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]76  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]77  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]78  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]79  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]7A  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]**  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp7B  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp7C  xulPantherRiver.esp7D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7E  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp7F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp80  xulBlackwoodForest.esp81  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]82  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp83  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp84  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp85  BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]86  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]87  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]88  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]89  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]8A  Book Placement v2.esp  [Version 2.0]8B  Drop Lit Torches Weight.esp  [Version 1.6]8C  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp8D  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.0]8E  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]8F  More Capacity Encumbrance with Fatigue.esp90  RealisticForceMedium.esp91  RealisticMagicForceLow.esp92  Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp93  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.3.4]94  BoneGrind.esp95  DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.esp96  RenGuardOverhaul.esp97  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp98  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.4]99  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 1.5x damage.esp9A  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp9B  Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp9C  Deadly Reflex - Breathing Motion & Head Bobbing.esp9D  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp9E  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp9F  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]A0  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]A1  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]A2  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]A3  ProgressRacial.espA4  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]A5  ProgressMercantile.esp  [Version 1.11]A6  Stylish Jump.espA7  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.espA8  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.espA9  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Better Redguard v2.espAA  Nec-Mystic Dark ElF.espAB  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]AC  Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]AD  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]AE  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]AF  X.Races.Comp.espB0  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]B1  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]B2  bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp  [Version 10.0UV-U]B3  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]B4  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]B5  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]B6  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge Better Redguards.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]B7  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]B8  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]B9  Better Cities - Full City Defences.espBA  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp**  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.espBB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espBC  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espBD  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.espBE  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.espBF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espC0  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espC1  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.espC2  Better Imperial City.esp**  Better Imperial City Vwalk.espC3  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]C4  Life Detected - OMOD.espC5  Get Wet - just droplets.espC6  Shining Creatures.espC7  Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]C8  Bashed Patch, 0.espC9  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 1.9.1]CA  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]CB  LazyPCB.espCC  UOP_Frans_Patch.espCD  Gems.espCE  MystBlueElf_EV.espCF  Hidden_Elves.esp  [Version 1.1]

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:12 am

I have the same thing happening in my game. Load order is as follows:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.4.1]02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]06  VASE - core.esm07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]09  BetterMusicSystem.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0A  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp**  SI Public Music.esp++  LoadingScreens.esp0E  LoadingScreensAddOn.esp0F  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]10  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp11  WindowLightingSystem.esp12  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp13  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp14  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Cobl Bookjackets.esp++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp15  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]16  merchant chest fix.esp17  MM_TextLocks.esp18  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]19  noreplicas.esp1A  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp1B  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.2]1C  SimpleHUDClock.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp1D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.1]1E  PTRoamingNPCs.esp1F  FF_Real_Thirst.esp20  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5.2]21  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]22  DLCHorseArmor.esp23  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.91]24  DLCOrrery.esp25  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]26  DLCVileLair.esp27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp2B  OS Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  PTArtifacts.esp2D  DLCThievesDen.esp2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]32  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]33  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]34  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]35  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]36  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]37  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]**  FineWeapons for OOO.esp**  LoadingScreens-OOO.esp41  Full Harvest.esp  [Version 1.0]**  RustyItems for OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]42  Unscaled Loot and Encounters.esp43  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]44  Better Benirus Manor for Cobl - Complete.esp45  Better Rosethorn Hall.esp46  Blissful_DreamsCOBL.esp47  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.4]48  Clamshell_Cottage_v1.5_COBL.esp49  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp4A  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp4B  ImprovedChorrol.esp4C  Mad Mike's Crypts of Cyrodiil.esp4D  Secret of the Hidden Sun.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Secret of the Hidden Sun (COBL).esp4E  Side's Bravil House.esp++  Side's Bravil House (COBL).esp4F  Side's Bruma House.esp  [Version 1.1]50  Side's Bruma House (COBL).esp51  Side's Cheydinhal House.esp  [Version 1.01]++  Side's Cheydinhal House (COBL).esp  [Version 1.0]52  Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp53  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.3]54  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp55  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]56  DLCFrostcrag.esp57  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]58  Knights.esp**  Knights - 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I should add that in my case it was a +73 to Speed. A quick google search found another person with the same problem, but with a Speed boost different than either of us posting here.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:35 pm

You could take a look at TES4EDIT and find Helljoint, and see if any mod is changing it.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:48 am

Good call, I'll go take a look in TES4Edit and report back.

Edit: TES4Edit shows nothing editing Helljoint, it's just plain old Oblivion.esm.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:47 pm

Get Kuertee's 'Actor details' mod and use it to check your character out. It will indicate what spells are affecting you, which you can then use to track back to a mod.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:23 pm

It is a problem with the one of OMOBS script and the game engine
Frans (/w MOBS) and OMOBS optional settings.esp modify the player's speed when they backpedal

helljoint iirc is -10 speed
MOBS backpedal penalty is -50 speed or whatever formula it uses

when you backpedal (run backwards) the MOBS scripted speed debuff will actually be added to the helljoint disease and become a positive +60 speed

I don't think there's an internal fix..you will have to delete the backpedal penalty script..or just not use OMOBS optional combat settings, and the MOBS version of franceso's mod

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:12 am

Thanks for the tips, I will try them out tonight.