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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:46 am

When partitioning a drive how much would people tend to leave for / and the swap? I only have a 160GB drive and was planning to leave 35GB of that for Windows so I would prefer to get it right.

I think my virtual machines left about 1-2gb for the swap partition. When I did it I think I followed the same rules as for the Windows page file, 1.5x-2x RAM and I have my VMs set to use 768mb of RAM.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:44 pm

When partitioning a drive how much would people tend to leave for / and the swap? I only have a 160GB drive and was planning to leave 35GB of that for Windows so I would prefer to get it right.

My rule for swap is RAM + 1 GB that way I am guaranteed no trouble, even with hibernation.

/ I generally give between 10 and 15 GiB, which is more than enough. My current install on my laptop is 12.5 GiB for / IIRC, of which I think I am using around half.

Then I always encrypt /home, just because I <3 encrypted personal data.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:27 am

I think my virtual machines left about 1-2gb for the swap partition. When I did it I think I followed the same rules as for the Windows page file, 1.5x-2x RAM and I have my VMs set to use 768mb of RAM.


My rule for swap is RAM + 1 GB that way I am guaranteed no trouble, even with hibernation.

Good call. I was going to set it to 1GB, but now you mention hibernation...

I generally give between 10 and 15 GiB, which is more than enough. My current install on my laptop is 12.5 GiB for / IIRC, of which I think I am using around half.

Ok. I will go with 20. I think. I tend to install a lot of development libraries so I think 20ish should be what I want.

Then I always encrypt /home, just because I <3 encrypted personal data.
I expected nothing less from you :P



I am moving from Ubuntu to Arch, as I really dislike Ubuntu's update method. Rolling release is the way forward in my opinion. Also in separating / and /home I can always move back if I dislike Arch more.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:46 pm

Good call. I was going to set it to 1GB, but now you mention hibernation...

I am moving from Ubuntu to Arch, as I really dislike Ubuntu's update method. Rolling release is the way forward in my opinion. Also in separating / and /home I can always move back if I dislike Arch more.

Which version of Arch should be downloaded? I know I want the x86 version but I see folders labelled 2009 and 2010 but then there is latest and archboot when I use their HTTP download mirrors.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:15 pm

I am moving from Ubuntu to Arch, as I really dislike Ubuntu's update method. Rolling release is the way forward in my opinion. Also in separating / and /home I can always move back if I dislike Arch more.

Great. Arch Linux is pretty awesome.

Which version of Arch should be downloaded? I know I want the x86 version but I see folders labelled 2009 and 2010 but then there is latest and archboot when I use their HTTP download mirrors.

"latest" is just a symlink to the latest image (currently 2010.05). ;) From that folder, get netinstall if your target machine has internet access, core if not.

Actually, since Arch is rolling release, it doesn't matter what version of the installation media you use. Once installed (and also updated if not using netinstall), you'll be at the same point regardless of the version.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:28 pm

Give Fedora a shot, I think Mandriva (Mandrake) also uses KDE by default but that has been awhile. Fedora has versions for each interface as well. Some of the stuff is a bit weirder to get to than Ubuntu and there is no fancy glass trash (if you care about that) but otherwise as said before they are close enough. It does seem that Fedora raises security though since your root password is different then you primary user account password, but this is ex[ected since they follow Red Hat (or are a branch?) and they are used for businesses.

As I understand it, Fedora is a community developed distro which Red Hat supports and uses as something of a testing ground for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Think of them as brothers: Fedora is the younger, happy to mess around and try new things, while Red Hat is a bit older, with more responsibilities and thus a bit more cautious, but they still bear a strong family resemblance.

Great. Arch Linux is pretty awesome.


"latest" is just a symlink to the latest image (currently 2010.05). ;) From that folder, get netinstall if your target machine has internet access, core if not.

Actually, since Arch is rolling release, it doesn't matter what version of the installation media you use. Once installed (and also updated if not using netinstall), you'll be at the same point regardless of the version.

I'm now thinking about switching to Arch. The main thing that bugs me with Fedora is having to reinstall (since I have plenty of stuff from third party repos) every 6-12 months or risk a lack of updates. I'd also like to see if my ability to mysteriously break wine -that is, things be unusually uncooperative for unknown reasons- is just me/somewhere in ~/home or is me + Fedora. Other than that and some minor stuff, I'm happy enough with it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:15 pm

I wanna compare two (plain) text files and delete any identical lines. I'm guessing it is easy enough to do, but I don't know how, and can't think of the right phrasing to search for it. Help, please?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:45 pm

Nevermind. :confused:
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:51 am

I've yet to find a PDF reader PERIOD that isn't awful. Though Evince is probably the closest to not awful in my book. I even install it on some Windows computers.

Not related to Linux, but try Sumatra PDF. Very lightweight and does exactly what I need it to with no fuss or muss (it pretty much JUST reads pdfs and that's it. Very simple interface).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:03 pm

Oh man, I sooooo want Fedora 16 to be called http://beefymiracle.org/.... it's just soooo awesome on so many levels.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:35 am

Oh man, I sooooo want Fedora 16 to be called http://beefymiracle.org/.... it's just soooo awesome on so many levels.

Given the (apparently) imminent release of Duke, it'd be even more awesome :D.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:53 pm

Ok, so it isn't really about Linux, but I was wondering if anyone had some good place to start learning about the basics of MySQL and stuff. Like good tutorials for setting it up and understanding the basic structure, getting a bit into understanding the SQL language.


saying "SQL language" is like saying "ATM machine" :yuck:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:00 pm

Ok, so it isn't really about Linux, but I was wondering if anyone had some good place to start learning about the basics of MySQL and stuff. Like good tutorials for setting it up and understanding the basic structure, getting a bit into understanding the SQL language.

Well there's something wrong with dev.mysql.com at the moment but when it's sorted out http://downloads.mysql.com/docs/refman-5.5-en.a4.pdf should do it.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:19 am

Well there's something wrong with dev.mysql.com at the moment but when it's sorted out http://downloads.mysql.com/docs/refman-5.5-en.a4.pdf should do it.

If I wanted to RTFM I'd just man it up (oh, that sounds catchy, I think I'll refer to it that way from now on :P). I'm looking more along the lines of tutorials and bite-sized pieces of info. I don't want a cyanide capsule :P

Note: I already have mysql's installation, post-install and setup guides bookmarked, but I'm looking for other sources. I know some people will say that the official documentation on this stuff is the best, but for starter reading material I always find it to be the worst way for me to get started.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:44 pm

If I wanted to RTFM I'd just man it up (oh, that sounds catchy, I think I'll refer to it that way from now on :P). I'm looking more along the lines of tutorials and bite-sized pieces of info. I don't want a cyanide capsule :P

Well I could give you http://web.studenti.math.hr/~manger/bp/BP-skripta-v2.pdf but somehow I doubt that will help much. :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:50 pm

Ok, so it isn't really about Linux, but I was wondering if anyone had some good place to start learning about the basics of MySQL and stuff.

Maybe using a relational database would be better for learning SQL? :P
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:48 am

The most awesome thing about Linux is the terminal. Discuss.

I'm kidding, no discussion is necessary!

Nowadays I spend most of my time in a terminal. Doing sysadmin stuff, writing python and bash scripts in vim, ... I've even started using irssi and cmus to replace Kopete and Clementine. :) The only GUI app that's running right now (besides KDE related stuff) is Chromium.

[edit] Oh, and Yakuake is awesome.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:08 am

I must admit I was running xterm as it being lightweight means its startup time is great (over things like the GNOME Terminal). However, I am thinking of moving to urxvtd and using a daemon to reduce startup time.

I prefer GUI programs for a lot of things as their learning curve is a lot less steep. For example, I use irssi as it is running on a screen terminal on a remote host and I access it over ssh but 90% of the time when I want to do something I have to use Google to find out how to do it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:38 pm

Maybe using a relational database would be better for learning SQL? :P

I know that for SQL Server you can write out scripts to do various things, by learning SQL I meant something akin to that but for MySQL (maybe it doesn't exist, but I'd be surprised if it didn't)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:58 pm

Sorry, it was tbh a bit of a poke at MySql. Another SQL implementation which is closer to relational algebra is PostgreSQL. From what I have heard it is generally better than MySQL and given MySQLs lack of Intersect statement I am inclined to believe them.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:21 pm

I need help with Konsole. Anyone know how to do this?

"Provide a list of files that shows each group on your Linux system is the owner."

In other words how do I make a file owned by all groups on my system?

I am using openSUSE Linux 2.6.34.7-0.7
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:21 am

Anybody know where I can get EEEbuntu 4 beta? I can't seem to find it.
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Anyone got some good tips for adding security to ssh? I'm already probably going to disable keyboard authentication and use only keys, but I was wondering if there is anything else I should consider?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:19 pm

does anyone know if there is any software for linux that helps you determine the ideal wattage for the PSU in the computer? i'm working on a used computer and it currently has a 400watt PSU but i know that it's geforce MX 4000 couldn't possibly need that and with the noise the PSU fan is making it might have to be replaced soon

The most awesome thing about Linux is the terminal. Discuss.
I'm kidding, no discussion is necessary!
Nowadays I spend most of my time in a terminal. Doing sysadmin stuff, writing python and bash scripts in vim, ... I've even started using irssi and cmus to replace Kopete and Clementine. :) The only GUI app that's running right now (besides KDE related stuff) is Chromium.
[edit] Oh, and Yakuake is awesome.

the terminal is nice when you would normally have to navigate through countless menus to get to what you need but if you aren't on the computer for a long time then you could easily forget a lot of the commands and it isn't as easy as remembering where to navigate through to change settings
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