as for the nudity thing, i remember i used to have a mod that would make npcs react to the pc just running around nvde. you could even get fined by the guards. i believe the mod was called "cover yourself" dunno if it's still around.

Another effect of sleep mods is the added urgency when doing dungeon crawls.

I use my own Real Sleep Extended (of course), with settings that doesn't hurt you too much when you get sleepy, but still make you feel the need to think of sleep. One time I was doing the main Glenvar Castle dungeon, which was larger and took much more time than anticipated, so I started to feel the need of sleep hurting my character, though it was much more psychological for me to see a few -1/-2 in the attribute stats than actually noticing the PC get weaker. Anyway, the moment I finally found a bed in a safe place down in the Glenwar dungeons, and how relieved I was, is still one of the more memorable moments of my Oblivion gaming - something I wouldn't experienced without a sleep mod.

Real Sleep, Real Hunger, Real Thirst, Realistic Fatigue and Encumberance, Immersive Health Indication...


Try all those together and you will fear your foes.

Thanks I will http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13385.

Regarding finding a place to sleep, can't you just use the mod Roughing It, and sleep anywhere?

As the author of that mod: no, you can't. There are several situations where sleep is still disallowed, and you may find it hard to get any rest if you haven't cleared the area of nasties... which, of course, is harder if you're tired. Yes, it removes the requirement that you find a bed; but no, it's not a free pass.

Does the default game not allow you to sleep if there is danger around? It would be realistic if you had a chance of being interrupted.

I wonder why you don't get interrupted while waiting or sleeping in vanilla Oblivion, that was a feature even Morrowind had.

I run vanilla time scale, mainly because I'm a casual player and I'd like to some days and nights more often. I'm thinking about decreasing it to 20 though because it's still a little too fast.

Anyways, my experience with these "need" mods haven't been to great. I feel like I'm constantly having to eat and sleep and that gets more annoying than fun. I'd like to see an "need" mod that requires you to eat, but rather than having slowly reducing attributes, have positive stats at first that slowly go away and then say like after 48 hours or maybe 72, start seeing those attribute decreases. Alternately, there could be an immersive system in place that simply just throws up an annoying message that you need to go to bed every 10 mins or something past a certain point in time of lack of sleep or food, which should be setable by the player.

Just my two gold pieces.

Then you would always have boosted attributes as long as you are fed which doesn't really appeal to me.

Even Arena had it. One of the many places where Oblivion was obviously nerfed.


Really high timescales make needs mods more needy, yeah. You might want to check out Tekuromoto's Time Manager -- it lets you set different timescales depending on what your'e doing. When you're outside traveling between cities it defaults to the vanilla timescale, but time passes slower if you're indoors and drops to 1 in combat. It can also have specific timescales for different activities -- conversation, alchemy, book reading, stuff like that.


You might want to try TFE (link in my signature). Rather than stat penalties, it applies fatigue drain if you're too hungry or tired... slow at first, doesn't become a major penalty until you've ignored it for a while.

I am looking for a drink mod that works with these or is combined very well. There are so many files...real thirst in many versions, hungry/thirsty/sleepy, etc.
I have these mods active:

Realistic Health/Fatigue
Real Sleep Extended
RealHunger Cobl 1.6.1


I know the fatigue mod adds it to NPCs but are there mods that make NPCs need sleep/food/drink too?

I was just told about http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24605 yesterday and it's great and pretty customizable to boot, you can turn off hunger or sleep, has an auto-eat function (so you don't have to deal with menus) and you can even make it so your character is a carnivore and it will eat only meat how cool is that? (perfect for my khajiit )
Btw when did this thread become about realism mods instead of npc behavior lol

Well then you can see on the comment page for it I think being killed is a bit of a steep penalty for trying to sleep behind a building (and I even looked around first). Some armed girl in Brav decided to take the law in her own hands.
She wasn't a guard unless that place has a militia with full put-to-death authority.

I have the kuertee mod but just not sure what to use for eating/sleeping yet.