Startig yet again! : IV

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:44 pm

Ok guys I know you hear this a lot and is annoying, but i need to install the game correctly with mods without errors..
If you could post some mods that you play and your game worked fine.
Thanks in advance!

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:30 pm

Almost every mod popular mod out there will work properly given you install it correctly. Refer to my sig.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:43 pm

Ok guys I know you hear this a lot and is annoying, but i need to install the game correctly with mods without errors..
If you could post some mods that you play and your game worked fine.
Thanks in advance!

Even the easiest to install mods can be installed "incorrectly" resulting in a game with errors. I'm currently running 150 mods and plan on installing another 150+ more. All of mine run without errors (so far!). But I'm using OMM (or BAIN), Wrye Bash, and TES4edit. Do you use these tools?

I don't think of mods I trust; I think of modders. So a sort list would be:

Anything by Tejon, Corpec, The Nice One, Arthmoor, Adonnay (although his do need to be cleaned), and others (these just came to mind).

I trust an FCOM install, but it requires patience and knowledge of the tools above and others. I understand OOO has an easy install and I would trust that.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:48 pm

Even the easiest to install mods can be installed "incorrectly" resulting in a game with errors. I'm currently running 150 mods and plan on installing another 150+ more. All of mine run without errors (so far!). But I'm using OMM (or BAIN), Wrye Bash, and TES4edit. Do you use these tools?

I don't think of mods I trust; I think of modders. So a sort list would be:

Anything by Tejon, Corpec, The Nice One, Arthmoor, Adonnay (although his do need to be cleaned), and others (these just came to mind).

I trust an FCOM install, but it requires patience and knowledge of the tools above and others. I understand OOO has an easy install and I would trust that.

I just don't use TES4Edit because I don't know what to do with it or how to use it -.-
Its about conflicts.. I fear that.. example: The last install.. contained Snow Dragon Temple I went there with a nice character and well its all fine but the smithy there didn't sell anything.. and all I ever wanted to buy was a katana
I fear that I don't use up-to-date mods or working versions..
I think that if I buff the game too much =\ low fps crap
Too many mods result in constant crashes, low fps, broken AI, missing meshes and other stuff, I don't even know if some mods work ( Streamline does it work at all? It didn't seem to change anything... )
Using OBSE results in halving my FPS, I just want to be able to see far, see NPC's or creatures at longer distances, I plan on getting a stronger PC but I need money for that...
I want my game to be difficult, filled with lots of creatures, NPC's btw Toaster's Recruitment mod I always had huge problems with aggro...
TIE i really want to use that mod with FCOM but how????
Please help me at least a little...
I want to use Supreme Magicka... bummer needs OBSE...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:29 pm

Using OBSE results in halving my FPS

Uh, no it doesn't. :glare:

Using a mod that needs OBSE might do that, but OBSE definitely doesn't do that itself. It doesn't even run during Oblivion, for crying out loud...

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:08 am

Uh, no it doesn't. :glare:

Using a mod that needs OBSE might do that, but OBSE definitely doesn't do that itself. It doesn't even run during Oblivion, for crying out loud...

Whats the command that shows FPS in game?? I can't remember but im gonna prove it to you

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:50 pm

Whats the command that shows FPS in game?? I can't remember but im gonna prove it to you

No, you're simply going to show me that launching Oblivion with OBSE cuts your FPS, not that OBSE is responsible. It definitely doesn't constitute as proof, and I don't need you to try proving anything to me...

The command is tdt.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:58 pm

Whats the command that shows FPS in game?? I can't remember but im gonna prove it to you

Wrinklyninja is right. One obvious mod would be Streamline. Are you running streamline? That'll do it.

~ Dani ~

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:37 am

Another possibility is you're using OBGEv2 with some shaders. They don't show up as mods, but some (SSAO especially) will have a large performance hit.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:09 am

No, you're simply going to show me that launching Oblivion with OBSE cuts your FPS, not that OBSE is responsible. It definitely doesn't constitute as proof, and I don't need you to try proving anything to me...

The command is tdt.

I guess you're right.. well for some reason before.. without OBSE FPS 50-65, with OBSE it halved... 30-40 i think i wasn't using any mods...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:00 pm

Here's the mods I play

Spoiler

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My game works fine. :foodndrink:

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:11 am

Kinda odd that I have never experienced this... I played for a bit and well I visited some bandits however when I got somewhere in range of 20-30 meters the bandit pulled out a weapon but he didn't see me.. yet and I hid myself and after a while the bandit returned back to his position. I did the same thing again and the other bandit started searching around a bit.. I was confused "Could it be possible that they are smarter :eek:

"
By the way... I really would like to use T.I.E. but with which mod could I use it with? ( I was thinking OOO, MMM, Fran's ? )

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:48 am

Given your mistaken beliefs about OBSE, you obviously have some screwy ideas about mods and how they are installed/work. XD You need to read. Every mod has a readme. Follow the installation instructions, don't take shortcuts. Don't skip the readme cause you're in a hurry.

Load order matters. Some mods need to be in certain places in your load order to work properly. Many of these mods will tell you in their readme's, some wont. Here is a handy tool for adjusting your own load order. - http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/loadorder.html
Again, reading is required.

Use tools like OMM, Bain, Boss or Wrye Bash for Oblivion install. They will help you with adjusting your load order, and in the case of Bash and Boss, even tell you where some mods belong, as well as point out possible conflicts.

As Wrinkly said, OBSE does not do anything to your fps. It's not a mod. It's a program some mods USE while running.

Things that WILL hit your fps? Any mod that adds a load of new NPC's. AI will hit your fps because the game suddenly has more to process. If you have a rig on the lower end of the spectrum than you are going to notice this more than others. I personally chug a bit in cities because I use Crowded Cities.

I don't mind the chugging. I'd rather have a busy city. It's not the fault of the mod, but rather of my rig's inability to handle the extra processing efficiently.

The lesson here is to not just blame mods across the board for your game's issues. Sometimes, usually, it's that you've missed something or are simply not mod saavy enough yet to handle your load order yourself. Do some reading.

:foodndrink:

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:34 pm

In most cases http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 will take care of your load order automatically. You still need to read the instructions, but it is an extremely simple tool to use.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:53 pm

Given your mistaken beliefs about OBSE, you obviously have some screwy ideas about mods and how they are installed/work. XD You need to read. Every mod has a readme. Follow the installation instructions, don't take shortcuts. Don't skip the readme cause you're in a hurry.

Load order matters. Some mods need to be in certain places in your load order to work properly. Many of these mods will tell you in their readme's, some wont. Here is a handy tool for adjusting your own load order. - http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/loadorder.html
Again, reading is required.

Use tools like OMM, Bain, Boss or Wrye Bash for Oblivion install. They will help you with adjusting your load order, and in the case of Bash and Boss, even tell you where some mods belong, as well as point out possible conflicts.

As Wrinkly said, OBSE does not do anything to your fps. It's not a mod. It's a program some mods USE while running.

Things that WILL hit your fps? Any mod that adds a load of new NPC's. AI will hit your fps because the game suddenly has more to process. If you have a rig on the lower end of the spectrum than you are going to notice this more than others. I personally chug a bit in cities because I use Crowded Cities.

I don't mind the chugging. I'd rather have a busy city. It's not the fault of the mod, but rather of my rig's inability to handle the extra processing efficiently.

The lesson here is to not just blame mods across the board for your game's issues. Sometimes, usually, it's that you've missed something or are simply not mod saavy enough yet to handle your load order yourself. Do some reading.

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?ok... I admit OBSE doesn't change FPS, I never said its a mod ok? I know what it does ok?
Thanks for the tip about FPS control however I still don't know what mods to mix, I still want those nice items added by Frans or OOO
I use OMM and BOSS and Wrye
I read ... readme's I'm not an idiot!
And what the hell are you talking about?

Given your mistaken beliefs about OBSE, you obviously have some screwy ideas about mods and how they are installed/work. XD You need to read. Every mod has a readme. Follow the installation instructions, don't take shortcuts. Don't skip the readme cause you're in a hurry.

I wasn't sure about OBSE but screwy ideas about mods and installing them? :facepalm: I guess you miss understood me badly what I meant was I am not sure about using some mods are they up to date or not... I read readme's always even CorePC's readme's that make me go nuts when he writes has instead of as... xD
I can install the mod but there is one problem... conflicts!!!

Now back to the topic.. any recommended mods?
Lets start with lighting mods which one do you recommend?
What about a weather mod?

Also do you remember when I said

I played for a bit and well I visited some bandits however when I got somewhere in range of 20-30 meters the bandit pulled out a weapon but he didn't see me.. yet and I hid myself and after a while the bandit returned back to his position. I did the same thing again and the other bandit started searching around a bit.. I was confused "Could it be possible that they are smarter :eek:

"

Remember that? well does that happen to you in a unmodded vanilla, yes! vanilla version? If I add mods will that behavior be changed?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:08 pm

... I still don't know what mods to mix, I still want those nice items added by Frans or OOO

I use OMM and BOSS and Wrye

...

I can install the mod but there is one problem... conflicts!!!

Now back to the topic.. any recommended mods?
Lets start with lighting mods which one do you recommend?
What about a weather mod?

...

Okay, so you know what OBSE does and you can use OMM, BOSS, and Wrye.

Mods that don't conflict with any other mod but still give you "those nice items addes by Frans or OOO"? Why not just install OOO and Frans, if you understand OMM/BOSS/Wrye Bash?

http://www.tesnexus.com/ that has a kazillion mods for Oblivion. It has a wonderful search feature that allows you to find mods by topic. Type in "lighting" or "weather" and see what come up. Then, read the comments to see if anyone is having problems with them. Then, visit the forum and read about mod. And then download the mod and, as you always do, read the readme.

~ Dani ~

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:04 pm

If you want a good weather mod go with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 (make sure to install the fix pack) used with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2536 (minus natural weather because it's included in weather - all natural and it's kinda buggy) you can create a very nice atmosphere.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:23 pm

If you want a good weather mod go with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18305 (make sure to install the fix pack) used with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2536 (minus natural weather because it's included in weather - all natural and it's kinda buggy) you can create a very nice atmosphere.

I liked it at first before I realized that using that with HDR = disaster.. so I don't want to use that, but it does contain a good weather mod however NE makes the stuff beautiful! If I could use it without Natural Interiors then yes...

Mods that don't conflict with any other mod but still give you "those nice items addes by Frans or OOO"? Why not just install OOO and Frans, if you understand OMM/BOSS/Wrye Bash?

I also want to use T.I.E. remember? and MMM!
Still I'm not sure what does Warcry do exactly since every single link leads to that german site ( i think its german ) and everything is written on german..

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:31 pm

I don't think you can use T.I.E with OOO or other overhauls.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:09 pm

I also want to use T.I.E. remember? and MMM!
Still I'm not sure what does Warcry do exactly since every single link leads to that german site ( i think its german ) and everything is written on german..

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1092981-relz-tamriel-immersion-experience-tie/page__hl__tamriel%20immersion%20experience
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1105791-relzmartsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/page__hl__MMM
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/875610-oblivion-warcry/page__hl__warcry
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/820948-scaling-overhaul-comparison/
:read: :read: :read:

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:03 pm

Ok I really want to play FCOM + TIE is that possible?

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:16 am

Ok I really want to play FCOM + TIE is that possible?

Nope, sorry. It would be very awesome if they added TIE compatability though. Anyone for FCOMT?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:12 pm

Nope, sorry. It would be very awesome if they added TIE compatability though. Anyone for FCOMT?

Raises hand!! :wave: