Which is more powerful?

Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:45 pm

TES's CHIM or the Discworld's http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Narrativium?

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Del Arte
 
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:04 pm

You'll have to define a measure of power by which we can compare them first though.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:07 pm

After reading only the first couple of paragraphs of that link with no idea from whence it came, I have deduced that whoever invented that is one funny guy :D But CHIM can definitely kick its butt.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:38 pm

I consider myself to be somewhat of a lore buff, but I have never come across anything i can think of tha would be shortened as "chim." What s it?
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:21 pm

Ill read all of that link later, when i have time, but from reading the first paragraph I gotta put one of those lines in the ol sig.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:18 pm

I consider myself to be somewhat of a lore buff, but I have never come across anything i can think of tha would be shortened as "chim." What s it?

Er...it's complicated. See http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1034626&hl=CHIM to be confused.

It's basically the construction set.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:35 pm

I consider myself to be somewhat of a lore buff, but I have never come across anything i can think of tha would be shortened as "chim." What s it?


Honestly, you couldn't call yourself a lore buff if you don't know what CHIM is. :P
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:34 pm

I consider myself to be somewhat of a lore buff, but I have never come across anything i can think of tha would be shortened as "chim." What s it?

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml

And, of course, http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/5th_era_loveletter.shtml.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:00 pm

It's basically the construction set.

I'm all for confronting different opinions in a discussion where everybody knows what we're talking about, but giving this as a factual answer to somebody who obviously doesn't is disinformation.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:16 am

Eh, I see it more as a form of godhood, but I get confused with this myself. So far I haven't seen anyone with a clear point of what it is, but I guess it's supposed to make you have your own idea of it, like much of TES' stuff.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:26 pm

I think dicworld is parody fantasy, so that "all powerful thing" is just a parody of normal fantasy stories anyway. Applied to TES(It has been, of course), it can outpower anything, ANYTHING.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:14 am

IMO, Chuck Norris CHIM is more powerful.

That is, if their power can accurately be compared.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:24 pm

They're different qualities. No resident of Discworld can wield Narrativium. They are just aware of it and can exploit it thusly. Whereas, CHIM is (in an abstract sense) wieldable by residents of Tamriel and can make it do virtually anything.

But of course, if this were put to a Pratchett forum, you'd get the opposite answer. So, what answer were you really looking for?
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:18 pm

I'm all for confronting different opinions in a discussion where everybody knows what we're talking about, but giving this as a factual answer to somebody who obviously doesn't is disinformation.

No it isn't. How is it? Read literally you might have an argument, but speaking flippantly (note the word 'basically' in there) it's not too far off.

To qualify;
"CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land."
From the Commentaries. Sounds like the Construction Set to me! Not literally of course, but as an aspect and metaphor to think about it it works.

From Vehk's Teaching which go further into it;
"...the sigil CHIM constantly distorts itself. Those scholars that can perceive its shape regard it as a Crowned Tower that threatens to break apart at the slightest break in concentration.

Representations of the chim, and by extension the Psijic Endeavor, are always protean values, such as the anumidi models renowned by the Dwemer, the Scarab of contemporary astrolothurges, and the Striking ("exact egg-cracking") of old Argonia. All of these representations possess an innate and constant aspect of transformation."
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:22 am

CHIM was a daft theory of the Psijic Endeavor, which despite never actually being proven to exist, the lore forum clings to like a oyster to its shell.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:58 pm

I think this counts as a versus thread. Sorry.
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